Rochelle's old posts

[svengali]

Trust Honestman to get to the heart of the matter.

Respect is a two-way street and the attitude of patrons is as important as that of the staff. The kind of bogan who would rock up to a high-end restaurant, pub or club in singlet and shorts shows no respect for the venue, its staff or his fellow patrons and should be refused service.

The ones who just squeak in under the bar of the dress code then act boorishly, jabber loudly and generally carry on like oiks once inside are as bad.

There still seems to be an attitude among some young men that showing respect for others is somehow "unmanly" and a sign of weakness when, in fact, the opposite is the truth. Real men show respect because they have nothing to prove.

Perhaps if the patrons lifted their game the standards of service would also improve.

 

[Master Yoda]

Trust Honestman to get to the heart of the matter.

Respect is a two-way street and the attitude of patrons is as important as that of the staff. The kind of bogan who would rock up to a high-end restaurant, pub or club in singlet and shorts shows no respect for the venue, its staff or his fellow patrons and should be refused service.

The ones who just squeak in under the bar of the dress code then act boorishly, jabber loudly and generally carry on like oiks once inside are as bad.

There still seems to be an attitude among some young men that showing respect for others is somehow "unmanly" and a sign of weakness when, in fact, the opposite is the truth. Real men show respect because they have nothing to prove.

Perhaps if the patrons lifted their game the standards of service would also improve.

I can't agree more. Respect like anything else that abide to the laws of this universe is something that is gained by default when we give it to others.

 

[bushseeker]

Ahoy Honestman, I do have to agree with you, I luv your PS;----I agree as well, but, let us face it there are bogans everywhere, but its a great idea though

99.9% Where did you get that figure from? If anything I've noticed that the overseas workers in most companies are the ones who are most polite and well-mannered.

So in Australia where we have decent basic wages as a start, why is so service so bad from Aussies then - using your theory. Been to Bunnings? Service is crap - no backpackers. Qantas - ditto.

Ive never had an issue getting assistance at bunnings. And I rarely fly qantas because there too dear but when I do. I get on the pkane. It takes me from a to b and I get off . I dont ask for much more

 

[suzythefloozy]

Ive never had an issue getting assistance at bunnings. And I rarely fly qantas because there too dear but when I do. I get on the pkane. It takes me from a to b and I get off . I dont ask for much more

Wow! Congratulations bushseeker! I suspect you're in a minority of one.

 

[suzythefloozy]

I went to Harvey Norman at City West yesterday with the intention of spending up to $4k. Public holiday, store was quite empty and there were staff around who weren't busy. Two guys in the fridge section were more obsessed with doing admin work at their desks. I caught one sneaking a glance at me and then looked away. Both guys must have decided to only get off their arses when and if they were approached.

Doing paperwork must have been worth more than selling a freezer and airconditioner.

Walked past electrical merchandise and was disappointed that a mature lady there couldn't be bothered acknowledging me despite my smiling at her. Okay....

Went to the computer section and the guy there (tubby chap who couldn't wear a necktie properly I think - I don't know, I don't wear neckties) looked right through me and about 6 other customers there.

Proceeded to Myer - better service but too few staff around.

Yeah, yeah I get it - public holiday and penalty rates but if YOU STAND AROUND AND CAN'T BE BOTHERED WHEN YOU'RE NOT BUSY, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE!!! THE CUSTOMERS PAY YOUR SALARY!!

Every time I read how retail is suffering from now on, all I can say is you guys deserve it if your service is bad - in fact it doesn't EXIST!!!

Harvey Norman, you lost $4k from me yesterday, god knows how much you lost from everyone else!

 

[colzilla]

When the Bunnings workers learn to read and write they promote themselves to a salesman's job at Hardly Normals....

Personally I'd rather be dead.

 

[homer]

I went to Harvey Norman at City West yesterday with the intention of spending up to $4k. Public holiday, store was quite empty and there were staff around who weren't busy. Two guys in the fridge section were more obsessed with doing admin work at their desks. I caught one sneaking a glance at me and then looked away. Both guys must have decided to only get off their arses when and if they were approached.

Doing paperwork must have been worth more than selling a freezer and airconditioner.

Walked past electrical merchandise and was disappointed that a mature lady there couldn't be bothered acknowledging me despite my smiling at her. Okay....

Went to the computer section and the guy there (tubby chap who couldn't wear a necktie properly I think - I don't know, I don't wear neckties) looked right through me and about 6 other customers there.

Proceeded to Myer - better service but too few staff around.

Yeah, yeah I get it - public holiday and penalty rates but if YOU STAND AROUND AND CAN'T BE BOTHERED WHEN YOU'RE NOT BUSY, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE!!! THE CUSTOMERS PAY YOUR SALARY!!

Every time I read how retail is suffering from now on, all I can say is you guys deserve it if your service is bad - in fact it doesn't EXIST!!!

Harvey Norman, you lost $4k from me yesterday, god knows how much you lost from everyone else!

Maybe they were affected by the purple haze dissipating. 0% service, 100% attitude, that's a bargain in itself. You should've proceeded to introducing yourself to the products and explaining couple of features to yourself by yourself.

 

[bushseeker]

And lets not forget how freaking rude customers can be else where. In the US I noticed how much customers complain. Over everthing. And trust me theres no excuse me please or Thankyou
Its front up right in the face of a $7 an hour adult wage earner and let them have it . The person is that terrified of losing thier shitty job they then bend over backwards to assist the whinging prick
Fair dinkum if thats the society you people want good luck to you.
No I don't tolerate bad service and walked out of my local pub just last night because I waited too long for a beer.
But unlike you lot I got over it pretty quick
Maybe I should have called in the manager and tried to have the one lady behind the bar sacked for being a bit off her game and some other demanding customers

 

[homer]

Chill bro, is this a forum not? Is this a discussion not? Some are just describing the experiences of bad services. This is no complaints dept, no one is taking note.

 

[Rochelle]

'did you not notice 99.9% of these people giving crap serice are backpackers from other countries? that make up our service industry???'

You definitely got it right for Fremantle. The amount of backpackers working in the main street is unbelievable. Even some of the management is backpacking and rather inexperienced. I used to work in one of the places there for a while as a supervisor. Every week I had new people to train up and just when they seemed to have understood how it worked they left.

Guess in my more mature age I rather decide to leave a place with bad service without causing a scene. live is too short.

PS:..........love green, Col goes nicely with my golden/brown forum background..........

 

[Rochelle]

Now what is going on in the States? After the Australian elections and the (rather embarrassing) build-up we better look at the "United Snakes of America".
What a bunch of clowns........and what is so bad about the new health care scheme that certain people think they need to shut down the government?
800000 (!!!!!!!!) people are not getting paid at the moment.......what a immature stunt.
Hope Obama sticks to his guns.

 

[Thatguy]

Obamacare is just one part of it... It's their whole new budget proposal that their two levels of congress can't agree on that has shut them down..

Basically their congress has to approve their proposed spending prior to spending and they didn't before their fiscal year started on October 1.. So only certain things are still paid for and everything else waits...

 

[BigMike]

The time for debate on Obamacare is over. It's the law of the land. It jumped through all of the hoops a long time ago. Some Republican states even challenged it and went all the way to the Supreme court. They lost. Romney's Presidential campaign was all about repealing it. He lost. The Republicans lost. The Republicans in Congress have actually voted to repeal it on 41 separate occasions (at last count). In order for that to be successful two things have to happen... 1) It must get support from a large amount of Democrats... and 2) The President(!) has to sign off on it.
So now they've taken the Government/Economy hostage.
Let there be no confusion - This isn't a "can't they just work this out" kind of deal. This is simply one party throwing their toys out of the pram. It's disgraceful, really. They don't really have much to lose though. It's almost impossible for a Congressman/women to lose their seat (google gerrymandering). 90% are re-elected. Plus, despite the government 'shutdown'... they still get paid.

 

[svengali]

For those of you who are old enough to remember it is the same trick Fraser used against Whitlam and which triggered the dismissal which is probably still the most controversial piece of politicking ever undertaken in this country.

There is an unwritten understanding that money to run the day to day business of the Government will always be approved by whoever controls the numbers in the upper house. The Republicans have thrown that out and basically held the Government to ransom with the poor old public servants and the public generally as hostages.

What they need now is a Sir John Kerr to dissolve the Government and send the issue to the people in an election but they don't have anyone who can do that so it will be a game of brinkmanship until someone blinks.

 

[SAO26.2]

It's always interesting for me to hear how others perceive things in the United States. (I'm from there.) And I'm always fascinated to see how other countries tackle similar issues differently.

We've gotten ourselves into a real mess this time, and everyone involved is trying to make it seem so complicated, but it's really not complicated at all. It's just stupid.

As stupid as it is, what's going on now isn't nearly as big as what's going to happen in mid-October. The USA has maxed out its credit card, but needs to keep charging to it. If these same politicians don't find a solution quickly, then by mid-month the USA won't be able to pay its bills. I wonder if anyone's going to notice if that happens..

 

[Thatguy]

I was reading one of their options was to mint a trillion dollar platinum coin.. give it to the federal reserve.. instant credit..

I was thinking if it was that easy, just mint 16 of them and wipe out their national debt.. why stop at just two...

it almost seems too easy..

 

[colzilla]

Can they invade another country... Would that help?

 

[homer]

Politics is filthy, it's the filth of the earth. The US health care is run and own by some of those in congress either indirectly or have some way of benefiting from it. It's business, if their business gets threaten hell will come punishing the people for not abiding. It's a shamble.

There's no worries about maxing out their credit card there, the Feds can print $ out of thin air. It's a global economy that runs on debt. US being the big brother, will not let itself collapse. Lies & Deception is the name of the game. Paper money will just be paper money.

 

[colzilla]

Lies & Deception .

Mr H that sounds kinda familiar.

 

[Thatguy]

There's no worries about maxing out their credit card there, the Feds can print $ out of thin air. It's a global economy that runs on debt. US being the big brother, will not let itself collapse. Lies & Deception is the name of the game. Paper money will just be paper money.

True they can print $ out of thin air, but didn't work for Germany.. just caused hyperinflation and massive devaluing of their currency... essentially meant it cost billions of Marks.. to buy a loaf of bread...(80 billion actually)... (side note.. 52 Billion marks for a glass of beer as at 15th November 1923.. OH THE HUMANITY!)

and at one stage it cost 4,210,500,000,000 german marks to buy one american dollar

Just printing more money won't do much, they need to come to a resolution on their budget and they are likely to again increase their debt ceiling and borrow yet more money (currently 40% of their federal spending is using borrowed money)...

The problem they seem to have is that their two levels of congress are currently controlled by different parties... Republican has one and the Democrats the other.. and both are standing their ground, and until they both sign off on their budget... they can't appropriate money..

 

[johnlou]

so they are having a Mexican standoff damned if they do and dammed if they don't and fook the people , while they pump up their chest like baboons .

power struggle @ its best

 

[homer]

True they can print $ out of thin air, but didn't work for Germany.. just caused hyperinflation and massive devaluing of their currency... essentially meant it cost billions of Marks.. to buy a loaf of bread...(80 billion actually)... (side note.. 52 Billion marks for a glass of beer as at 15th November 1923.. OH THE HUMANITY!)

and at one stage it cost 4,210,500,000,000 german marks to buy one american dollar

Just printing more money won't do much, they need to come to a resolution on their budget and they are likely to again increase their debt ceiling and borrow yet more money (currently 40% of their federal spending is using borrowed money)...

The problem they seem to have is that their two levels of congress are currently controlled by different parties... Republican has one and the Democrats the other.. and both are standing their ground, and until they both sign off on their budget... they can't appropriate money..

The Germans weren't that smart then. And they didn't do it discreetly and they weren't good at the game of deception. They were doing at a pace of light speed, before you could say Oktoberfest, price of a loaf of bread went through the roof.

The US on the other hand, are very good at lies and deception, and diluting the numbers. Giving false impression of economy recovery. Unemployment rate declined because of number manipulation, not because more people became full time employees. There may have been more people on casual employment which is different from full timers. Then there are those who stopped looking for work altogether and these numbers were scrub from the equation. Cooking the books is illegal, but hey it's right for the govt to do it.

With this current stand off, that republican guy is having a wet dream. Someone or some groups are benefiting from this in congress.

Healthcare reform has always been a touchy subject. Hilary Clinton tried to introduce universal healthcare and wasn't successful. Congress stopped it. Reason being the private health insurance is a protected part of the healthcare industry.

 

[SAO26.2]

The only ones getting any benefit from this stupidity are the so-called Tea Party crowd. They are a small group of misfits who are ignorant about history and oblivious to the world outside their small town church crowd. The career politicians can't control them, and the career politicians absolutely did not want this silliness.

But the Tea Party crowd absolutely did want this. They are celebrating this shutdown as their accomplishment. This is their moment in the sun, and this will be the beginning of their hard fall - because fringe groups in American politics always decline and fade as quickly as they burst onto the scene.

I always enjoy the idea of conspiracies, lies, and deception in American politics and big corporations. People give us way too much credit for being organized, influential, and powerful. We aren't capable of organizing a group lunch, much less deceiving the world by manipulating economic data to suit our government's purposes. But thanks for the compliment of thinking we can.

 

[SAO26.2]

In the USA, unless you're an old person without much money, if you have health insurance at all, it's provided by your employer - the US government has nothing to do with it.

If you work for a big corporation like Microsoft or ExxonMobil, then all is well - about $250 is taken out of your paycheck each month, and if you get sick or hurt, the company pays the medical bills.

But if you lose your job or if you change jobs, you lose your health insurance, and if you get sick or hurt, you have to pay all the bills yourself. If you quit your job to start a business, you have no healthcare insurance. If you move to a small company, if they offer health insurance then it could cost up to $2000 per month - unaffordable for most everyone.

If you've got an illness like cancer or diabetes when you lose your job, then even if you get a new job with a health plan, costs for this preexisting condition will not be covered.

These are the problems that Obama (and Clinton before him) are trying to fix.

A small group of people don't want anything changed. This is the Tea Party crowd, and it's their complete focus in life. Not because they don't want to solve the problems but because they hate Obama. They will do anything - shut down the government, hurt the global economy, endanger their own safety - to prevent Obama from being successful at just one thing.

And why do they hate him? Because he's black. And this is the truth that no one talks about in public but everyone whispers in private.

I know these Tea Party people - they are the crowd I grew up with in West Texas. They are just that racist and full of hate, and I have no doubt whatsoever that this racist, hatred attitude is the root of the political problems the Tea Party has caused. I've known these people all my life; this is exactly their character.

 

[BigMike]

True they can print $ out of thin air, but didn't work for Germany.. just caused hyperinflation and massive devaluing of their currency... essentially meant it cost billions of Marks.. to buy a loaf of bread...(80 billion actually)... (side note.. 52 Billion marks for a glass of beer as at 15th November 1923.. OH THE HUMANITY!)

and at one stage it cost 4,210,500,000,000 german marks to buy one american dollar

Just printing more money won't do much, they need to come to a resolution on their budget and they are likely to again increase their debt ceiling and borrow yet more money (currently 40% of their federal spending is using borrowed money)...

The problem they seem to have is that their two levels of congress are currently controlled by different parties... Republican has one and the Democrats the other.. and both are standing their ground, and until they both sign off on their budget... they can't appropriate money..

Hey we've got a new fancy term for 'printing more money' - Quantitative easing. Sounds better. Doesn't remind you of fallen Empires.

What was that saying someone said?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Those who do [remember]... well, they'll just have to watch on as the rest fuck shit up, again.
Or something like that.

And why do they hate him? Because he's black. And this is the truth that no one talks about in public but everyone whispers in private.

That's either true or just an unfortunate coincidence Because where were they when Bush was dolling out billions to Wall St? Obama continued those policies (...and why wouldn't he? The lovable criminals on Wall St. from places like Goldman Sach's and JP Morgan 'donated' truck loads of money to his campaign. Not sure a donation is a donation if you seek/get something in return) Obama's token gesture to help out people struggling with their mortgage's was met with fierce opposition. A rant by Rick Santelli on CNBC, in response to this program allegedly started the Tea Party fire "we shouldn't be helping losers".
To Summarise - $700b to Wall Street? No Problem. $40b for people who are struggling? People? Fuck off. In the end that was a fraud program and not very many managed to jump through all the bureaucratic hoops.

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Back on topic. The merits of this Health Care law are more or less irrelevant to what's going on at the moment. As Svengali points out -
"There is an unwritten understanding that money to run the day to day business of the Government"

 

[suzythefloozy]

What they need is leaders will balls like Colin Barnett and Tony Abbott! They'd show that stupid 3rd world country how to run a country effectively.

 

[honestman]

....Maybe it's time to consider resource-driven economy.

Let's face it. Money in terms of physical manifestation in itself is nothing. Until you add somesort of 'value' to it and then introduces a market system. Now what you have in terms of money means you owe a percentage of that value itself. Aka. 'debt'.

The venus project anyone? I've discovered that project from watching all zeitgeist videos. Truly the documentary of our lifetime.

 

[markeys]

I couldnt belive the protets they had with poeple actually protesting against a national health system
Big business must really have the people over there totaly bluffed to protest against having something like healthcare for all.

 

[BigMike]

It's actually a dogshit law. Certainly better than nothing though.
It's a gift to insurance companies. They get millions of more customers. Only major diff now is they can't deny people with pre-existing conditions. I'm sure they will offset those costs - Insurance companies won't be going out of business any time soon.
Insurance in the US is the only industry that I know of that's allowed to openly price fix. Obama promised he'd change that... but he didn't. He has managed to have his cake and eat it. Gets the support of the public (most of them) AND keeps his insurance mate$ happy. Perfect.

 

[Happy2]

Can they invade another country... Would that help?

Only problem Col is Its the invaded country that gets all the money thrown at it to salve the consciense of the invader
Now if the US could be invaded by Canada? They may be able to impose a westminster system and they already have a good health system that they could put in place They even have a healthy economy I think
Who knows the Democrats may even supply the soldiers and weapons for them As I think the Canadian side only have about 5 soldiers on duty at any one time