Women not interested in sex.

[johnmatilda]

If this is the case, why not get divorced and then you have the freedom to pay to see different ladies. In this way you are not bound and you get what you want. I think it would be better for your wife as well.

Because men are raped by the family court and lose their children, their house and half of everything he has worked for in his life.

 

[johnmatilda]

While men argue that they don't get good sex at home, they never stop to think if they listen to their wife and be a good husband. You can't get what you want if you don't provide what others need.

Even if men listened to their wives, they will not get their needs met. Women don't respect men who don't respect themselves. Any man who "kneels" before a woman is seen as a pussy and she won't respect him.

Don't believe me? Then why do women lust after the bad boys who treat them like crap? Dexter isn't getting laid but will the one she runs to when she is ready to settle down.

There's a saying: nice guys finish last...and bad boys finish on her face!!

 

[Master Yoda]

While men argue that they don't get good sex at home, they never stop to think if they listen to their wife and be a good husband. You can't get what you want if you don't provide what others need.

That was kind of my point

 

[hd1200]

mmm, sounds like men pay for everything and being nice, but not get well cheated by their wives, but is it the truth? All wives don't have a job and not contribute to the house ?

If this is the case, why not get divorced and then you have the freedom to pay to see different ladies. In this way you are not bound and you get what you want. I think it would be better for your wife as well.

It is not as simple as that! Don’t we wish it was? On the other hand some do find separation and divorce easier!

 

[hd1200]

It is not as simple as that! Don’t we wish it was? On the other hand some do find separation and divorce easier!

I never mentioned females contributihg or not contributing because although you make a relevant point, it is not the topic…

By implication, if a woman pays the bills or contributed to finances, does that buy her way out of conjugal responsibilities to her partner/husband?
What did she marry for in the first place? Security and material gain? If so: Which raises another question?

What is the difference between Wls and wives/partners? Isnt the WL also pursuing financial security and material gain?
The dufference is LOVE! It’s not mentioned much here but it’s Love that keeps most of us at home, Its love of our wives, love of our children and love our families.
The point is: Its not as simple as divorce or separation, the impact is wider and more convoluted than this topic.

 

[glen]

A wise man on here once said "a WL is someone you pay to leave after sex"!

 

[hd1200]

Because men are raped by the family court and lose their children, their house and half of everything he has worked for in his life.

And on top if that is Child Support Payments . The formula and calculation for Child Support payments does not include an allowance for visits to WLs! After
(I am not referring to scavengers who breed and expect working taxpayers to support and feed their children!)

 

[hd1200]

Even if men listened to their wives, they will not get their needs met. Women don't respect men who don't respect themselves. Any man who "kneels" before a woman is seen as a pussy and she won't respect him.

Don't believe me? Then why do women lust after the bad boys who treat them like crap? Dexter isn't getting laid but will the one she runs to when she is ready to settle down.

There's a saying: nice guys finish last...and bad boys finish on her face!!

It has little to do with listening! Or conversation for that matter. We are not talking about young couples and so called “lack of communication” - we are discussing mature women who lose their sex drive…

 

[HookPsy]

It has little to do with listening! Or conversation for that matter. We are not talking about young couples and so called “lack of communication” - we are discussing mature women who lose their sex drive…

I agree with the lack of communication with every marriage and female, but mature women have knocked back sex at the start of their marriage and why when they mature together sex is non-existant. And the man totally turned off, their fault.

That's why mature women cheat, they haven't lost their sex drive. Just they need someone new to spark it up again. And living with the same man they become very complacent. It's why marriages fail also, due to mature women questioning their sexuality and man if he still loves her. but really why he doesn't find her sexually desirable bullshit

Married women you're stuck with them and have to deal with their drama at the end of the day vs WL getting a root and walking out drama free.
If you calculate cost you will get more companionship with a married lady but you have to deal with whatever problems she has. In the long run i reckon seeing a WL or a new WL without worrying about cheating with another WL is better off

 

[hd1200]

Even if men listened to their wives, they will not get their needs met. Women don't respect men who don't respect themselves. Any man who "kneels" before a woman is seen as a pussy and she won't respect him.

Don't believe me? Then why do women lust after the bad boys who treat them like crap? Dexter isn't getting laid but will the one she runs to when she is ready to settle down.

There's a saying: nice guys finish last...and bad boys finish on her face!!

And you can bet your left testical, when these so called “Bad Boy lovers” reach midlife and female sexual activity declines, its his fist that will be in her face.. “Bad boys” are less tolerant or capable of empathy, understanding ir tolerance than “Good guys!”

 

[Master Yoda]

To husbands… If communication and emotional safety is not in check… then there is little no sex. It’s not that your wives don’t want to have sex. They just don’t want to have sex with you. Because her needs are not met.

To wives… if his needs are not met. There will be very little communication and him treating you like a queen when you first met. He wants that, but just not with you because his needs are not met.


Sadly over 80% of marriages in the western world are train wrecks in one way or another. And that’s just the reported ones.

Some do go way and learn to rectify this.

 

[hd1200]

I agree with the lack of communication with every marriage and female, but mature women have knocked back sex at the start of their marriage and why when they mature together sex is non-existant. And the man totally turned off, their fault.

That's why mature women cheat, they haven't lost their sex drive. Just they need someone new to spark it up again. And living with the same man they become very complacent. It's why marriages fail also, due to mature women questioning their sexuality and man if he still loves her. but really why he doesn't find her sexually desirable bullshit

Married women you're stuck with them and have to deal with their drama at the end of the day vs WL getting a root and walking out drama free.
If you calculate cost you will get more companionship with a married lady but you have to deal with whatever problems she has. In the long run i reckon seeing a WL or a new WL without worrying about cheating with another WL is better off

IMHO
If you can’t accept a woman at her worst..
You don’t deserve her at her BEST!

 

[HookPsy]

IMHO
If you can’t accept a woman at her worst..
You don’t deserve her at her BEST!

True but that statement can also be said, in the opposite way too. If a Younger women won't accept you at their best, they don't deserve you at your best later in life and them at their worse. High body count, loads of drama and kids to different men.

 

[johnmatilda]

If communication and emotional safety is not in check… then there is little no sex.

I don't entirely agree. I was in a few long term relationships and I was supportive, a provider and a damn good listener. I even tried to fix their problems.

In the end, it didn't matter. A woman sex drive doesn't increase by making your ears sore.

 

[Master Yoda]

I don't entirely agree. I was in a few long term relationships and I was supportive, a provider and a damn good listener. I even tried to fix their problems.

In the end, it didn't matter. A woman sex drive doesn't increase by making your ears sore.

So was I brother. I thought I was doing it right. And there was too much I don’t know that I don’t know.

And sex drive wise. When a couple have demonstrated long amazing relationships that are successful, they find joy in serving each other. Their love overcame these obstacles.

Not many can achieve that. And it’s something I aspire to

 

[hd1200]

I agree with the lack of communication with every marriage and female, but mature women have knocked back sex at the start of their marriage and why when they mature together sex is non-existant. And the man totally turned off, their fault.

That's why mature women cheat, they haven't lost their sex drive. Just they need someone new to spark it up again. And living with the same man they become very complacent. It's why marriages fail also, due to mature women questioning their sexuality and man if he still loves her. but really why he doesn't find her sexually desirable bullshit

Married women you're stuck with them and have to deal with their drama at the end of the day vs WL getting a root and walking out drama free.
If you calculate cost you will get more companionship with a married lady but you have to deal with whatever problems she has. In the long run i reckon seeing a WL or a new WL without worrying about cheating with another WL is better off

IMHO
If you can’t accept a woman at her worst..
You don’t deserve her at her BEST

I don't entirely agree. I was in a few long term relationships and I was supportive, a provider and a damn good listener. I even tried to fix their problems.

In the end, it didn't matter. A woman sex drive doesn't increase by making your ears sore.

Just another variable thrown into the mix- ‘self-regulation’

 

[hd1200]

I agree with the lack of communication with every marriage and female, but mature women have knocked back sex at the start of their marriage and why when they mature together sex is non-existant. And the man totally turned off, their fault.

That's why mature women cheat, they haven't lost their sex drive. Just they need someone new to spark it up again. And living with the same man they become very complacent. It's why marriages fail also, due to mature women questioning their sexuality and man if he still loves her. but really why he doesn't find her sexually desirable bullshit

Married women you're stuck with them and have to deal with their drama at the end of the day vs WL getting a root and walking out drama free.
If you calculate cost you will get more companionship with a married lady but you have to deal with whatever problems she has. In the long run i reckon seeing a WL or a new WL without worrying about cheating with another WL is better off

IMHO
If you can’t accept a woman at her worst..
You don’t deserve her at her BEST

True but that statement can also be said, in the opposite way too. If a Younger women won't accept you at their best, they don't deserve you at your best later in life and them at their worse. High body count, loads of drama and kids to different men.

Another variable creeping in …
- are we seeing a trend here people?
Every poster has contributed a criticism as well as a different, but relevant point of view, and we still haven’t scratched the surface.
Long story short each individual is a complex being! When the individual becomes part of a couple, complexities dont double, they increase tenfold!
Add to that, the family dynamics in their upbring and family dynamics of the current relationship ~ then add children - add a blended family where both have children from previous relationships….
In the end, all family members pay the cost when sexual compatibility issues arise.
The belief that it should be viewed as only ‘your path’ ‘your choice’ is debatable as any mature, responsible, caring and family oriented male is concerned, as the future paths and choices of everyone can and will be impacted by a selfish self-serving choice.

 

[hd1200]

True but that statement can also be said, in the opposite way too. If a Younger women won't accept you at their best, they don't deserve you at your best later in life and them at their worse. High body count, loads of drama and kids to different men.

This is my life story! Off topic but HookPsy makes a good point.
My first love dumped me for a”bad boy”. After enduring, years of abuse, DV and loss of an unborn child from his assault, she divorced him, and is worse off than anyobe could have imagined.
I still feel she deserved better, but it was her choice.

 

[johnmatilda]

I still feel she deserved better, but it was her choice.

She mades her bed and now she must lies in it.

 

[mrys]

So many great perspectives shared in this thread. Words of wisdom born of experience, successes and sadly some pain. The absence of sex in a relationship isn't the cause of a breakdown, it's a symptom of wider and deeper issues that lead to a breakdown. What starts as infatuation mellows to become ambivalence unless the fire of romance and lust is fed. It's hard to feed the relationship sometimes when work/life stresses, children, financial pressures and menopause are thrown into the mix. TBH it's just as easy to fall in love as it is to fall out of love.......or maybe it wasn't love to start with, maybe it was just infatuation. I'm at an age where so many of my mates are calling time on long term relationships (20 - 30 years) because they see less before them than behind. They want to live, laugh, feel wanted and f*ck before it's too late. They have all been great and supportive husbands and dads but life is for living and creating memories even if they are ephemeral. I've been married 3 times and I don't regret any of them, I also knew when it was time to move on. Leaving is hard, staying in a loveless, sexless marriage is harder.

 

[LZZ]

I never mentioned females contributihg or not contributing because although you make a relevant point, it is not the topic…

By implication, if a woman pays the bills or contributed to finances, does that buy her way out of conjugal responsibilities to her partner/husband?
What did she marry for in the first place? Security and material gain? If so: Which raises another question?

What is the difference between Wls and wives/partners? Isnt the WL also pursuing financial security and material gain?
The dufference is LOVE! It’s not mentioned much here but it’s Love that keeps most of us at home, Its love of our wives, love of our children and love our families.
The point is: Its not as simple as divorce or separation, the impact is wider and more convoluted than this topic.

You made a good point, but tracing back to the conversation, I think Johnmatilda said men pay the bills and fix stuff as if women do not contribute at all and his view of needing variety and can't eat fried rice everyday is somehow shocking to me. So here comes the question, what if their woman like to have sex with them, do men still prefer to see WLs as they provide some different taste to his sex life? I used to work at a massage parlour as receptionist and I see different men come visit the shop everyday, both young and old, even some really handsome young men, I can't help thinking what's wrong with men? Does visiting WLs turn your guys on more?

 

[ARCHRIVAL]

Yep

 

[johnmatilda]

You made a good point, but tracing back to the conversation, I think Johnmatilda said men pay the bills and fix stuff as if women do not contribute at all and his view of needing variety and can't eat fried rice everyday is somehow shocking to me. So here comes the question, what if their woman like to have sex with them, do men still prefer to see WLs as they provide some different taste to his sex life? I used to work at a massage parlour as receptionist and I see different men come visit the shop everyday, both young and old, even some really handsome young men, I can't help thinking what's wrong with men? Does visiting WLs turn your guys on more?

If men could get their needs met at home, most men would not cheat. They would stay loyal to their wives or parrners. Men feel guilty when they cheat but rationalise cheating because their wives/partners are not meeting their needs.

If a man isn't in a committed relationship, he will have sex with as many women as he can. If a man needs to have his needs met outside the home, then the same will apply.

It is rare for a man who gets his all his needs met at home to cheat. But then again, it is rare for a man to get all his needs met at home.

 

[johnmatilda]

women do not contribute at all

I didn't say they don't contribute at all. However, there are many women who don't contribute a FAIR share. For example, they don't pay the water, council, gas, electricity and insurance bills because they expect a man to take on that responsibility. Women generally save their own earned money and ride on the income of a man. Yet today's woman wants a "partnership" and equality yet they expect to be treated special when there is nothing special about them. This is from my decades of life experience and those of others.

 

[johnmatilda]

what if their woman like to have sex with them, do men still prefer to see WLs as they provide some different taste to his sex life?

Show us such women? They are few and far between. Not enough such women hence why we punt!

 

[johnmatilda]

I can't help thinking what's wrong with men? Does visiting WLs turn your guys on more?

Nothing wrong with us men. Like I said earlier, men have a far far greater need to get laid. We generally spend more time thinking about sex than anything else. We would rather save our money than visit a WL but we have needs!

 

[Lingus]

...

I see different men come visit the shop everyday, both young and old, even some really handsome young men, I can't help thinking what's wrong with men? Does visiting WLs turn your guys on more?

I sometimes think there's an equivalency between visiting an AMP/brothel and visiting a hospital Emergency Department ... my body is hurting and I need urgent treatment !

 

[HookPsy]

This is my life story! Off topic but HookPsy makes a good point.
My first love dumped me for a”bad boy”. After enduring, years of abuse, DV and loss of an unborn child from his assault, she divorced him, and is worse off than anyobe could have imagined.
I still feel she deserved better, but it was her choice.

Nope that's not the worse of it @hd1200, the worse is if she your first love asked you to take her back after 20+ years of Train wreak relationship trauma. with all the drama still chained to her life. She'll want you to come pick up the pieces with her, once settled she might cheat on you later on for another bad boy due to her subconscious nature.

 

[johnmatilda]

Nope that's not the worse of it @hd1200, the worse is if she your first love asked you to take her back after 20+ years of Train wreak relationship trauma. with all the drama still chained to her life. She'll want you to come pick up the pieces with her, once settled she might cheat on you later on for another bad boy due to her subconscious nature.

...and then also take your kids, half your house, half the investment properties inherited from your father, half your super, half your bank account, your car and your sanity. < This is a true story. That's f**ked.

 

[johnmatilda]

Oh, and women are also cheaters. Seems they prefer to have sex with other men than their husbands/partners. Guess they be chasing the tingles.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/sex/why-more-women-than-ever-are-cheating-on-their-husbands/news-story/80119f2927989eff8bf9c69377ee7b44?utm_source=pocket_mylist