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what were your overall thoughts on this ad?

  • did you look at the pictures attached?

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • Do you think the advertiser is genuine?

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • How long have you been a member?

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Are you in Perth?

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Total voters
    5
  • Poll closed .

sunyun

Legend Member
Sad that people caught CV19 whilst in a quarantine hotel - especially when the State Govt had a report saying that the Mercure was not suitable because of it's 20 yr old air con.

One also wonders why the unHealth Dept didn't do what the Victorians did months ago and place positive cases on different floors to negative cases?

Apparently there is no one at the unHealth Dept with common sense.
 

sircurious

Legend Member
The poor guy caught this in quarantine, he did nothing wrong, systemic failure and by definition you should not be able to be infected in quarantine
Unfortunately nothing is fool proof - you can catch Legionnaires Disease through hospital air-conditioning systems, so catching COVID through hotel air-conditioning is a risk that can occur when these stranded Aussies want back into the country!
 

beachbandit

Gold Member
I just did hotel isolation for 14 days., pain in the ass.. but I did it... 14 days alone in a hotel room no windows, just netflix/stan/and pornhub... and nowhere to go.... days 4-8 are horrible after day 8 you can start to see the exit.
Ive done 14 day iso twice in perth as i live interstate. Each time i booked airbnb. Its actually bearable as you can move around more freely
 

beachbandit

Gold Member
May be they could have got them at Bunnings today.
Apparently one of their busiest days ever.
@#$& sake, why are they allowed to be open, why are people going there, etc.
And none of this 'but they have to open because some tradies still need to work on Saturday'.
3 days people, it's either a lock down, or it's not, none of this half hearted make it up as we go crap.
Was never going to be a lockdown when people were still allowed to leave perth for the long weekend
 

beachbandit

Gold Member
Sad that people caught CV19 whilst in a quarantine hotel - especially when the State Govt had a report saying that the Mercure was not suitable because of it's 20 yr old air con.

One also wonders why the unHealth Dept didn't do what the Victorians did months ago and place positive cases on different floors to negative cases?

Apparently there is no one at the unHealth Dept with common sense.
Adelaide has a totally seperate hotel for positive cases. Not ideal though
 
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At least if they put negative quarantiners right far away from positive swabbed quarantiners , the -ves wouldnt get it from the +ves

They might still have it and test +ve later on , then isolate them too.

Seems so 101 stupid , to me , to put covids alongside negatives.
Isolate the positives from society.
 
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SilverSurfer44

Why not seperate them to rotnest island or a disused mining town separating them from the community then there is no need for lockdown
Yres looking at Rottnest Island as an alternative. My lady friend says I'm not ugly and not dumb or stewpid.!
 
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Mark_50

Gold Member
Just hope that it doesn't turn into a horrible drawn out situation

I know there are many people out there that cry because it is all a hoax and it illegally undermines their civil liberties - everyone is entitled to their opinion
But surely questions need to be asked regarding the whole quarantine set up! Mixing Positive and Negative case? My biggest question is why there is such a warning before lockdown starts? Rumor's started about midday Friday (of a Long Weekend) that there will be another lockdown, giving everyone ample time to head out into other regions (that definitely have not got the capacity to deal with an outbreak should it happen) So if there is a risk that is deemed serious enough for a lockdown, implement it straight away!
You can get everything you really need delivered to your door, so if you are caught short on items that you really need, simply order online and you will not have to go without those items for long!

Quarantine resources may be limited but it is pretty clear that this problem is not going to simply disappear! Already 12+ months so the quicker we deal with it properly then hopefully the quicker we can get some normality back
 

surfing1

Silver Member
Need to check every international traveller's negative testing results before boarding like other countries do. Stop the case outside Australian but not bring them in for quarantine. Hard to understand why we know this common sense but those people in the gov are suppose to be specialists don't.
 

Mark_50

Gold Member
Need to check every international traveller's negative testing results before boarding like other countries do. Stop the case outside Australian but not bring them in for quarantine. Hard to understand why we know this common sense but those people in the gov are suppose to be specialists don't.
https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/co...ome/covid-19-re-entry-and-quarantine-measures

"Pre-departure COVID-19 testing
If you're travelling to Australia, you must provide evidence of a negative COVID-19 PCR or RT-PCR test to your airline when checking in for your flight at the departure point (exemptions apply). Rapid antigen tests will not be accepted. Testing must be conducted at an accredited testing facility, a self-administered COVID-19 test undertaken at home without supervision is not acceptable.

Anyone who has a negative test result and enters Australia must still complete mandatory 14-day quarantine at designated facilities in your port of arrival."

Think it is more to do with the 14 days being the set rule, unfortunately some people are turning up positive even after doing the 14 day isolation. But it would seem that the majority show signs/symptoms within the 14 days and well you can not lock people up indefinitely just in case they develop symptoms after the 14 days
 

SirSwann

Silver Member
Some random chick I have added on Snapchat that I found on tinder, she posted to her Snapchat story last night at like around 8pm and she was at a bar and I could see heaps of people without a mask.... Can't believe the bar didn't enforce the rules.

This lockdown could very well last longer than 3 days

Could've been a wedding/reception... as long it was under 100 ppl. I attended a wedding last night where the couole had notified the authorities and sought permission to proceed. They were given the all clear.
As long people had a drinknin their hand, they werent required to be wearing a mask
 

John Smithl

Legend Member
As per Dr Norman Swan, the federal government need to:
1) accept the science and risks of airborne transmission of covid (N95 masks, etc);
2) step up with the national use of proper quarantine facilities and plan for expansion (covid, it's mutagens and other future viruses will happen here eventually);
3) start vaccinating at overseas Australian embassies and consulates prior to return flights to Oz.

The state government, while we have precious time, needs to:
1) Use rapid covid tests on people on the day of quarantine departure (day 14);
2) Further bolster contact tracing ability;
3) Further bolster hospital facilities, staff, etc (look at India, and look at our ambulance ramping times as an indicator);
4) Come up with methodology for a more mosaic approach to lock-downs, possibly suburbs or zones?

The public need to be educated to:
1) stay calm and not panic to go food shopping at the announcement of lock-downs (seems obvious, but people don't seem to get the message that we can still go out and buy food and toilet paper);
2) be vigilant with covid practices like using WA safe app, wiping down shopping trolleys, hand sanitizer stations, etc (the number of people walking past the QR code is astounding and only adds to contact tracing burden and risk of community transmission going unchecked)

Shops need to have:
1) Someone ensuring QR code registration

Covid and it's mutagens are here to stay, not to mention future viruses. Vaccines, like regulations are always following from behind the events at hand. Australia is still is it's safety bubble - thank goodness. We need to make the most of the time and learn from other countries experiences. To covid deniers and civil libertarians, have some perspective on our freedoms, the sacrifices we are currently making, and the extent of the sacrifice of the men, women and children affected by ANZAC. Lest we forget.
 

Phoebe

Some Village lost an Idiot!
Talking Turkey Moderator
Nearly at the halfway point folks.... hang in there, Bunnings is open for those interested in (wood) ...... LOL
 

Paco

Gold Member
Christmas Island! Scommo spent millions on it just so he could win an election!
Likely has better medical facilities than most regional areas, and it would still be cheaper to charter medical flights if someone critically ill.
 

Phoebe

Some Village lost an Idiot!
Talking Turkey Moderator
So McGowan was told on April 8th about three hotels not fit for purpose now.

Yep....... so this rests on his shoulders right? or am I wrong? I did hotel isolation and I kept on mentioning the air cond in rooms to doctors, medical staff, security etc and I was met with a wall of silence, I was moved from one hotel to another because I took pictures of the air cond vents that were full of mould etc and advised I would send to channel 9 as soon as I said that, I ended up in a 5 star hotel on Hay street funny dat....

The whole system stinks. People whom are honest citizens are treated worse than the claremont serial killer is.. It's a joke but people are paying for that treatment too.

45000 people have paid $2550 per head to do this... and paid 10% GST also part of this payment so is it about health or money... ...

Rant over.
 

Paco

Gold Member
F*ck self serving politicians and greedy rich people. The cost in dollars is irrelevant. Pour money into it now, or it costs more in the future, lives , money, social fabric. Previous generations have suffered disastrous events, so far Australia has been lucky to lose little of our privileged lifestyle.
 
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