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Disappointing Industry

ManonaMission

Gold Member
I'm not sure if I'm 100% in agreement with what you've written. Like you I too remember a time when the market wasn't like this. I remember a time when the market was virtually all Australian in the 80s and even the 90s. Prices, even accounting for indexed inflation were never this high. Now, if you're with an Aussie woman, you pay $400 to $500 an hour AND THEN on top of that for extras. Let's go back to the one time person or family of battlers. You'd earn an income and then SAVE for luxuries like the flash car etc but you'd make do with an ordinary car.

Now, from what I can see, the women want it straight away - and they charge $400 per hour. Hey, it's a free market and you're free to charge what you like but sex workers have to seriously ask themselves who's to blame when they too drive punters away to cheaper alternatives. If Langtrees, with its spas, as many fresh towels as you like, high aircon bills, electriticy bills, many rooms, kitchen and a medium sized army of receptionists, drivers, cleaners, a charity and a website to maintain charges $500 per hour and the ladies take half... then how do private Aussie ladies with far less of the above expenses justify their charging $500 per hour? If you've six clients a week and total up $3000 and then take home $1200 after expenses, shouldn't you be happy as that's what many working class punters take home? And these punters are paying off a mortgage too on that amount of money so why can't a sex worker unless she's living beyond her means possibly?

I don't claim to be an expert in these matters but you've raised some points which arouse curiousity. Can you show me where it's "Proven to be SEX SLAVERY syndicates operating at full force in west Australia." Do you have any documentation about it being at full force? If you're finding that the market's drying up then shouldn't the Aussie lady who thinks she's a class above meet the market especially if she's not experiencing the overheads that Langtrees offers? Look at the ad of that Aussie lady charging $250 per hour, she must be on to a good thing if she's still advertising.

This phenomena of what the sex industry is experiencing is happening in other industries too. Holden etc closed down in Australia - but they weren't meeting the market in price or quality and were being subsidized to the tune of half a billion Aussie dollars annually. Look at Langtrees, they've outsourced a portion of this website to overseas IT people. Again to make things viable for them and this website's a great marketing tool. I'm not sure if it'd exist if went full Aussie operations and the Aussie market benefits in the end.

If the Asian sector of the sex industry in Perth's as bad as you claim then again, punters will avoid them and that part of the industry too will have to meet the market and improve; no?
One would believe you work within Langtrees? You know an awful lot about the ins and outs of their enterprise.
 

lonelyman

Gold Member
I have to jump in.
This is one of the most disgusting posts I've ever seen on this forum!
Firstly... How dare you assume we have less expenses? We do all our own cleaning, reception, advertising, rent, we also run air con or heater and give you unlimited towels refreshments etc! Replying to messages etc at all hours ensuring we have business and are building a brand alongside social media presence, free underwear shots for people that might not even ever come and see us!

Should we be happy with $1200 a week after expenses? Really? You do realise what we are doing right? Like we are giving our fucking bodies to you! We are mentally and physically giving you apart of us and you think we should be getting what we would be getting in a standard full-time job? Working double the hours alongside giving you our bodies? Sometimes having to take weeks off to heal from clients who do us harm with no income we don't get sick pay holiday pay we have to do our own tax out of that income.

Either your really naive or your really stupid but from this post I assume you are both!
Moderator, please assess this post. I've made and contributed with a simple view without personal attacks. This poster's abusive and emotive attacks are an over reaction.
 

lonelyman

Gold Member
One would believe you work within Langtrees? You know an awful lot about the ins and outs of their enterprise.
Blind Freddy just has to visit to be amazed by Langtrees. One doesn't have to work within Langtrees, I'd hardly qualify as a sex worker!!. Just speak to any of the ladies when you hire their services. Anyone who's read different posts in the forum which have made previous comments about this can draw the conclusion. I've punted at Langtrees only three times and was amazed at the quality of furnishings and the spa not to mention the ladies. Once a lady was driven to my house and the driver had a BMW!
 

lonelyman

Gold Member
Blind Freddy just has to visit to be amazed by Langtrees. One doesn't have to work within Langtrees, I'd hardly qualify as a sex worker!!. Just speak to any of the ladies when you hire their services. Anyone who's read different posts in the forum which have made previous comments about this can draw the conclusion. I've punted at Langtrees only three times and was amazed at the quality of furnishings and the spa not to mention the ladies. Once a lady was driven to my house and the driver had a BMW!
 

AmeliaKennedy

Private Escort in Perth twitter :ameliakennedyxx
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Moderator, please assess this post. I've made and contributed with a simple view without personal attacks. This poster's abusive and emotive attacks are an over reaction.
You've made a contribution? you've personally attacked all independent workers in your post.

An over reaction is how upset you've gotten from being called out on your ignorance.

We could get $1200 a week working in Woolworths and Coles without any of what we all have to put up with you have no clue what sort of messages we receive what unsolicited pictures we see let alone r@pe fantasies and all sorts of horrific stuff it's not all sunshine & roses so for your comments in relation to we should be happy with $1200 a week is just an insult to us all.
 
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mrys

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Moderator, please assess this post. I've made and contributed with a simple view without personal attacks. This poster's abusive and emotive attacks are an over reaction.
I think you're being a little over sensitive. You expressed some opinions, Amelia expressed hers. One principal difference is yours are 'arms length' observations and Amelia's are a lived experience. Maybe there is something to learn from that?
 

Lebron23

Gold Member
Blind Freddy just has to visit to be amazed by Langtrees. One doesn't have to work within Langtrees, I'd hardly qualify as a sex worker!!. Just speak to any of the ladies when you hire their services. Anyone who's read different posts in the forum which have made previous comments about this can draw the conclusion. I've punted at Langtrees only three times and was amazed at the quality of furnishings and the spa not to mention the ladies. Once a lady was driven to my house and the driver had a BMW!
So you’ve been to Langtrees 3 times and even had an outcall where the lovely Langtrees lady was driven in a BMW? Yet in this post of yours from last year, you state that you can’t afford Langtrees and looking for ladies that would be so kind to provide you with companionship for $30/hr. Which one is it?

 

glen

Gold Member
Many people who have never managed a commercial enterprise know all about it and how to do it better and become more profitable! Most new business owners, self included, soon learnt that pre concieved notions were of little help in the reality of running a business. However this does not stop the uninformed giving advice in reviews, forums and alike. Let alone the issues with offering the most personal service possible. Thank you to all the working ladies who continue to provide this amazing service.
 

PacMan222

Silver Member
Well this post seems to be heading in a directionless path that will bring no solution ultimately, as I see two sides fighting to their very last breath to defend their perspectives and justify their reasoning, to a dead end.

So to summarise, it seems that punters are not happy and satisfied with the current pricing rates + services provided by WLs, while WLs feel that they are not being paid the fair amount and are not getting paid enough for the amount of things that they have to do, in order to maintain and keep their business running, and are also losing their businesses to cheaper alternatives/competition who sacrifice quality for quick cash.

Well the only verdict for this scenario and situation is = To each his/her own. This is a free market economy and businesses will have to compete with one another in order to attract more customers. Punters will have to either choose to pay more for a better service, pay less for a less better service, adopt the celibacy of monkhood or up their game in order to get back into the dating world to gain the experiences that they crave from proper casual/committed relationships. That being said, there are also outlying factors like those providing a higher quality service for lower end prices - and I do not agree with and appreciate the racist comment made above by another WL about generalising all Asian WLs under the same category, absolutely ignorant comment for sure!

So essentially just like the saying goes for a WL "My body my choice" ....the saying also applies for the punter "My wallet my choice". Maybe it's time to just suck it up and move on. Businesses will always run on competition and customers will always choose the better deal for themselves. Those who are willing to pay more will do so, while others will seek out alternatives to suit their financial capacity. If you cannot understand this simple principle, you should not be providing a service or be punting. Maybe that job at woolies and coles is what was meant for you after all, if you are looking for greater job security and stability, knowing full well the volatility involved within a business like this where customers are flakier than a bar of flake chocolate. Nuff said!
 
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Lebron23

Gold Member
I do not agree with and appreciate the racist comment made above by another WL about generalising all Asian WLs under the same category, absolutely ignorant comment for sure!
Her comments were disgusting. Exposed the type of person she is.

Also blaming punters for keeping the cheap Asian W/L industry afloat. She has put me off from paying to see her and I spend good money on privates, FS parlours and AMPs. Others enjoy her post because it’s like watching a car crash but she is potentially alienating clients the more she posts.
 

lonelyman

Gold Member
So you’ve been to Langtrees 3 times and even had an outcall where the lovely Langtrees lady was driven in a BMW? Yet in this post of yours from last year, you state that you can’t afford Langtrees and looking for ladies that would be so kind to provide you with companionship for $30/hr. Which one is it?

That was in 2013. Your point being?
 

mrys

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Might be time to let this thread go gents. A dead cat has more life than this topic now. Lots of perspectives shared, some pearls of wisdom and useful insights gained. No collateral damage sustained by any combatant........Peace be with you! Pass the wine please.
 
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Drinkwater

Might be time to let this thread go gents. A dead cat has more life than this topic now. Lots of perspectives shared, some pearls of wisdom and useful insights gained. No collateral damage sustained by any combatant........Peace be with you! Pass the wine please.
You're right. Long day at work. Time to open a nice Penfolds red, cook up a big juicy steak and maybe add a little blue cheese and truffle to my mash potato because I prefer the better things in life and don't mind paying for it.
 

lonelyman

Gold Member
No in 2021 you were asking for $30 companionship rates. The OP was stating within a year you have gone from being able to only afford $30 to now $500 an hour & house visits with a driver's fee on top where they are driven in a BMW.
I know what you're saying. That was in 2013. What is your point? That's what I could afford later. People buy houses, people get depressed.
 

sunyun

Legend Member
Might be time to let this thread go gents. A dead cat has more life than this topic now. Lots of perspectives shared, some pearls of wisdom and useful insights gained. No collateral damage sustained by any combatant........Peace be with you! Pass the wine please.
I have sympathy for both the WLs and us punters.
Whatever the cause (much bigger than either them or us), we are all suffering.

At the end of the day, market forces - prices/affordability/earning power of WLs and punters will control the market.

WLs will (have always) adjust prices to make a living, and punters will adjust their frequency and choices according to disposable income.

No amount of finger pointing will change that.

WLs need to ensure they are as competitive as possible in both price and service to attract return business, and punters will need to make decisions about what constitutes 'disposable income'.

Personally I avoid the impersonality of AMPs and most Asian girls (with a few exceptions), and have gone from punting once a week ($350 to $500 range), to punting about once a month - and now always with one eye out for girls in the $200 to $300 range. Always looking for good service providers to see more regularly.

I know of young blokes I used to work with who are still happy to drop a $k a week on punting, so there is still money out there for ladies who can attract it.

I have seen a few ladies who have provided great service the first one or two times, but then start to take me for granted and hurry the action, looking at their phones, not as enthusiastic, etc., and so I move on.

Much as I hate it, that is just economic reality.

Cheers.
 

asianguy77

Well-Known Member
It's all dictated by market forces of supply and demand. Sure, the prices are creeping up across the board. Ultimately, everyone has their own price they consider reasonable or willing to pay for a service and the means which they can afford it.

If you think you're worth being paid a certain amount but your company/boss doesn't agree either you find something else or they do.

If you can't afford eat fine dining unfortunately need either go with fast food or do without.
 

No idea what to do

Legend Member
You accurately summed up the attitude of the industry atm - both brothel and privates. It's like they just want you to hand over the money, turn around and leave without receiving any services. They show absolutely no motivation to provide a decent service. You have to blame punters for continuing to throw money at them and encouraging them.

I'm keeping my punting wallet shut until I see a drop in price and a change in attitude.
So your life is fucked then in the punters arena?
Not sure it will hurt the girls, they will still get a root here and there, it wont be your :excited: that gets the benefit of the pleasure.

Just My Opinion,

🐸 The Frenchman🐸
 

Octopussy

Gold Member
What makes you think that west aussie girls provide a better service for men.? Not every Asian is bad and not every Caucasian girl is necessarily good or better

You are very right . But not.
I am DEFINITELY NOT VOUCHING for all aussies .fuck no. Cos not all Aussie’s have standards they have addictions instead.

And I NEVER SAID ASIAN GIRLS ARE BAD LAYS Fuck no.
The land of the Orient is the land of Erotic. They are quintessential females. Ancient cultures that honours the Goddess . No no no . They are sexy minx’s .
THE GIRLS GETTING 40% of the car change won’t be a good fuck .
That’s who I’m referring to .
The junkies are also cheap and not a good fuck for some but yes for others

Same bag . Guys that seek the cheapest WILL BE GETTING THE WORST SERVICE. .
All the bad elements of cultural differences magnified and ignored. The Spiritual toxins created when a one of you lot have had a few beers and a lot of failure in life and believes his salvation lies with ‘Cindy Just new today. ‘
Cindy isn’t a prostitute not that you were confused about that ! Cindy isn’t anything that seems to have a title . Cindy isn’t a sex worker. Cindy is being worked for sex do you can come along. . Cindy hates you with every cell in her body. She prays you will finish so she puts on the best act that child can work. . She will get better at that. as that child dyes inside . Not that it matters cos men don’t see her anyway. . She just a tight pussy aNEW pussy. You can Cum as many times as You can fit in .. and being so cheap that will be every minute possible cos hey .., there no Small talk between.unless you speak the language. It actually takes up to about half hour NORMALLY fir a man to recharge the Cumbags.
But you can still fuck after a few minutes . But it just means you’ll be Fucking longer to get back to where you are first time. So you get her to suck you if your old and unfit . She can sucky sucky even if dicky flaccid flaccid. . Cis that’s what you guys want when you got to get service from UNHAPPY GIRL . You can’t afford to be nice to the Asian whore . Value is a fair arguement right ?
Cos that is the blinding point . What’s cheap for you is a disgrace for her to be paid !

THERE IS NO WAY IF SHE IS WORKING FOR PIMPIR OR MAMMASAN THAT SHE IS HAPPY.
GIRKS THAT MAKE THEUR OWN MONEY ABD FREEDOM ARE GOOD FUCKS ASIAN or Caucasian junkie slave to the dealer /bikies .

Unhappy women are bad fucks.
Simple.
But those type of guys DO NOT GIVE A FUCK SO THEREFORE WOULDNT EVEN LOOK TO SEE IF SHE WAS HAPPY . And would probably think I’m a ‘fruitcake ‘ as one has said 🥱

Ps . When I say you I don’t mean YOU .

You had a really true point. But I as to clarify. And then again I get carried away 🤣
 
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