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Cash option fading

Kenny

Diamond Member
So I read yet another online article that ATM's are disappearing quite quickly due to contactless payments, persons not using them etc.
So if we can't get cash and we have to do a contactless type of payment to bust a nut, will we complete the transaction knowing that the electronic transaction will be on ones banking statement for how long?
I am sure the shops/ privates wont be happy either as the ATO will be wanting a share of their now disclosed "income" that will be nicely documented with their digital transactions to help relieve the nations debt. [to fuck knows who ! ( ; ]
 

howling

Diamond Member
Cash works all the time 24/7. Its really difficult when the banks network goes down and you can't use your card.
Also that surcharge is really annoying and greedy by the banks. Aren't their profits high enough? The surcharge eats away your balance if you continually use the card. For LT hour it is 500 for cash but 550 using the card.
 

gus2012

Gold Member
You can walk up to a Woolworths self-serve checkout and press the cash withdrawal button and withdraw cash without needing a purchase and with no fees. (according to the supervisor there)
 

Channelle

Legend Member
For LT hour it is 500 for cash but 550 using the card.

Really, is that true? $50 extra to use a card?

I believed it illegal to do that and shops could only increase slightly to recoup their cost of that option.
Don't know the ins and outs (of that bit of the business) but perhaps easy shop ways around it, say 550 is full price and get a discount for cash, or call the extra a booking fee or whatever.
But wont affect me as will never revisit.
 

Liam

Gold Member
Really, is that true? $50 extra to use a card?

I believed it illegal to do that and shops could only increase slightly to recoup their cost of that option.
Don't know the ins and outs (of that bit of the business) but perhaps easy shop ways around it, say 550 is full price and get a discount for cash, or call the extra a booking fee or whatever.
But wont affect me as will never revisit.
It is illegal, but at the end of the day, who the fuck is gonna police it.
 

Rover

Silver Member
Problem is that private ladies tend not to accept credit cards. Also, for some reason not all eftpos machines work with them (I'm looking at you South Sun!!!) and when they do, you often get slugged with a surcharge. Could be handy for paying for an STI test through one of the online services.

Anyone else had issues at other venues with Visa Gift Cards?
Yep...l tried at Hanny's but they couldn't or wouldn't make the machine take it
 

Kenny

Diamond Member
Hanys have a 10% surcharge for card use even for Eftpos, hate to see the cost of using a Credit Card.
I get the use of cash and the current work around's to obtain cash whilst shopping etc, just the writing is more and more on the wall that cash is slowing disappearing where everything will be done electronically for so many reasons.
When it does go all electronic hopefully these places can't continue to charge their high surcharge fees
 

No idea what to do

Legend Member
So , By the time cash is no longer in existence ( about 20 years )
My dick :excited:might not wanna work and spray Little Able Semen.

Here's to hope the Cash stay's alive and well

:excited: The Frenchman:excited:
 

gus2012

Gold Member
The tax man doesn't care what you spend money on. They're interested in the money that's coming IN.
Yeah, but when the place is paid in cash the Tax Man never sees any of it. It is not a question of what money is spent on, it is a question of declaration of said income. If you pay by card the place sort of has to declare the income, and pay GST, hence the 10% extra than the cash price.
 

Kenny

Diamond Member
I remember years ago buying my lunch at lunch bars noticing that everyone was handing over cash and the shop owners were mainly Asian descent with that small red waving cat on the cash register, and thinking I bet they don't class that as "earnings", so I would pay with the card which was quite slow back then, with no surcharge. Now that tap & go is the thing today where most customers use their cards more due to the ease, I bet the lunch bars are showing higher earnings for the tax man.
 

GreatAnt1

Gold Member
they can charge whatever fee they want to as long as its disclosed before the point of sale

i mean i think its technically worded as "reasonable surcharge" but realistically as long as you know before you're charged, then you have a choice and its legal
 

Slugger1

Legend Member
they can charge whatever fee they want to as long as its disclosed before the point of sale

i mean i think its technically worded as "reasonable surcharge" but realistically as long as you know before you're charged, then you have a choice and its legal
Not true.

A business can only legally charge what it costs to process a transaction now.

Link is broken so it has been removed

For a credit card the Reserve Bank estimates between 1% and 1.5% for a Mastercard or Visa.
 
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Can anyone tell me what the typical card bank statement description is for an AMP? Asking for a friend 😉
 
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A few years ago I had to use my card .on the statement it was . Mt Isa mechanical services. ?? Go figure. Got a lube and oil change. For $150.
Well, it's not completely inaccurate. My friend's other half might raise eyebrows though
 

sludgie

Gold Member
Hanys have a 10% surcharge for card use even for Eftpos, hate to see the cost of using a Credit Card.
I get the use of cash and the current work around's to obtain cash whilst shopping etc, just the writing is more and more on the wall that cash is slowing disappearing where everything will be done electronically for so many reasons.
When it does go all electronic hopefully these places can't continue to charge their high surcharge fees
A number of shops charge the 10% for cards, it's called GST. Long live the cash world.
 

Kenny

Diamond Member
A number of shops charge the 10% for cards, it's called GST. Long live the cash world.
If a business is registered to charge GST as it earns more than $75K, then it doesn't matter if you use your card or pay in cash as the GST amount shall be included in the total amount, then kept by the shop owner and then handed over when the BAS statement is lodged.
If one when to the shops and I was given two options of the total amount, ie one price with the GST amount and a cheaper one if I used cash, we all would be using cash.
Government doesn't charge tax for prostitutes
Haha you sure about that?
I am sure that when the W/L gets cash for her services, i'll bet she isn't declaring that cash as earnings.
 

Mickey

...I follow you...
Gold Member
Thankfully though ANZ Customers still get free transactions using the ATMx machines.
Also, as an ING customer, you can use any ATM who charge you 2.50 or 3 bucks, you get it credited back from ING.
You just need 5 card transactions per month, not hard to do.
They also give you currently a whopping 5% interest on your savings, I guess that's the most you will get from any bank atm.
(Up to $100k per customer)
Cheers :cool:
 

sludgie

Gold Member
If a business is registered to charge GST as it earns more than $75K, then it doesn't matter if you use your card or pay in cash as the GST amount shall be included in the total amount, then kept by the shop owner and then handed over when the BAS statement is lodged.
If one when to the shops and I was given two options of the total amount, ie one price with the GST amount and a cheaper one if I used cash, we all would be using cash.

Haha you sure about that?
I am sure that when the W/L gets cash for her services, i'll bet she isn't declaring that cash as earnings.
As with a number of shops there is a cash price and a card price. As a client of Hanys l am sure you have seen the prices on the book stating cash price.
 

Kenny

Diamond Member
As with a number of shops there is a cash price and a card price. As a client of Hanys l am sure you have seen the prices on the book stating cash price.
I was talking about the regular shops like IGA, Bunnings etc not AMP or the like.
 
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