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I never believed Australia would take over Germany when it comes to house prices. But here we go it has happened. Honestly even average double income no kids would struggle to get into the first home in Perth. Yeah great country but the price of housing is unreal.
And just another thought.........I think we should judge (good place or bad place to live) countries by the way they look after the ones in need........the wealthy ones are always looked after regardless of the country they are in.

Hear hear Rochelle.

Not so long ago it wasn't unrealistic for a typical family to survive on one decent income. One parent could stay home (if he/she so chose to). Now? That's only possible for those lucky enough to be on v.good money.
Just a generation ago in the US an average single income family brought in 25% more than todays average two-income family (read Elizabeth Warren's - The Two-Income Trap). So you've got both parents working full time.. for less money. And obviously, a lower standard of living.
And then there's the children. Can you really be shocked at the amount of time some kids spend in front of their (fucking) phones/computers? Sure, some parents are lazy. But many are simply exhausted. I know, being a parent isn't meant to be easy - In any time. It's particularly hard these days (economically speaking).

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A stat I was pleased to read was that Australia's minimum wage is the highest in the world. $16.88 US (US's is $7.25). I know that makes some business leaders and Rand-ians out there a bit sick. I reckon it's a good thing.
 

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We may be branded to be the "best" and most "wealthiest" nation. And our minimum wage is by far too often misused for being interpreted as "better" than everyone else. That doesn't mean our buying power is improving if everything else also gets more expensive.

But really - everything is relative to GDP & overall currency strength.

GDP doesn't measure the median benchmark of socio-economic well being and health of its citizens.


PS. ^ That vid is a portion of Zeitgeist: Moving Forward (2011). I've watched it at least 4 times since last year.
That is; the documentary; of all documentaries of our lifetime. DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying I fully endorse everything behind the zeitgeist movement, NOR am I a member of the movement. This documentary is simply an exhaustive addressing of the various issue/s and implications of the free market / monetary system; alongside with a possible solution for a sustainable alternative system - RBE (resource based economy). Whether you believe it as a possibility or not it is up to you. This; I believe is simply an awareness project behind all things around us.
 

BigMike

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We may be branded to be the "best" and most "wealthiest" nation. And our minimum wage is by far too often misused for being interpreted as "better" than everyone else. That doesn't mean our buying power is improving if everything else also gets more expensive.

No doubt. But I think you have to take the stat for what it is. It goes without saying that a high (in comparison) minimum wage doesn't necessarily mean "better". I think it's an indicator of at least a degree of sanity. You can slice and dice it any way you like... It is better to be a minimum wage worker here than many other developed countries.
To pick on the US again - If min wage increased at the same rate (percentage wise) as corporate profits increased in the last 30 years... the minimum wage would be $22, not $7.25. That's insane.
 
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There are ample opportunities to own a home here, I agree some housing prices, especially in the city, are expensive. That is why I chose to buy a house outside the burbs. People say "you live miles away". Not really. Travel time to the city is really a small sacrifice for a great country lifestyle (most city people are stuck in traffic for the amount of time it takes me to get to Perth)and a much smaller home loan and lots of people are realizing this. I have seen many families buy and settle in the town I live in over the last 10 years and they are happy, comfortable and there is ample work locally as well as a lot of them work in the city. If you want a town house in subi or a tiny block in the burbs 2 incomes are needed and for what, a house in the polluted brick jungle. No thanks.....Look outside the square and the opportunities are there :)
 

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Yes the only people saying houses are expensive here are those that consider themselves too good to live anywhere other that the city. Cottesloe freo etc
I live in a great area just minutes from the airport for me to fly to work
I spend alot of times bushwalking and riding round the hills bushland.
I didnt notice an affordability issue at all .
To save for a house I rented very cheaply (ie not Scarborough beach) took no overseas holidays. Drove old cars didnt own a computer . Had no internet. Was on the cheapest mobile plan. Worked 2jobs
If those conplaining about house prices did simular they might find houses more affordable
 
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Yes the only people saying houses are expensive here are those that consider themselves too good to live anywhere other that the city. Cottesloe freo etc
I live in a great area just minutes from the airport for me to fly to work
I spend alot of times bushwalking and riding round the hills bushland.
I didnt notice an affordability issue at all .
To save for a house I rented very cheaply (ie not Scarborough beach) took no overseas holidays. Drove old cars didnt own a computer . Had no internet. Was on the cheapest mobile plan. Worked 2jobs
If those conplaining about house prices did simular they might find houses more affordable
Sacrifices = rewards :)
 

homer

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I can't disagree this is one of the best countries on earth. I mean most middle class family own 2 cars, a house, 2.5 kids and goes on holiday at least once a year. There is no need to be a beggar in this country, the social welfare is great in taking care of people in need. If there are beggars, then I reckon they are there by choice.
 

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Job market isn't all that great. Many have gone from full time to part time work. I am now looking for work and no such luck. Prices are too expensive, even for the little things. Those cheap burgers from HJs and maccas are smaller, same with pizza. If it hasn't gone up in price, it has gone down in size/quantity. We are far better off than other countries but it is still hard to live here. More and more middle income families are struggling and needing help, with charities being overwhelmed and turning people away.

And with house prices, if you have one mansion in the suburb, it adds a higher median price for that area. So houses are over priced compared to what they would normally be
 
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Sacrifices! I can make a family of 6 an awesome hamburger with egg, bacon, mushroom, cheese, lettuce, egg, tomato and beetroot for around $2 per serve, chips around 50cents a serve and a soft drink for 60cents a serve. To have a better life you need to make sacrifices and a lot of sacrifices are better for you.
 

honestman

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There is no need to be a beggar in this country, the social welfare is great in taking care of people in need. If there are beggars, then I reckon they are there by choice.


I respect your observation based upon your opinion. Because that is alone is based from your own experience.

Mine, however is different. I may only be 26 yrs old when I saw this. But 2011 was the year that changed the way I see things in life.

Through my own eyes, poverty can happen on anyone.

And it is not by choice. Or for some sort of personal agenda or motive / revenge, against friends, relatives or even families.

This belief alone is not a combined testimony. This is my own hard evidence seen-through fact, as I am about to explain below.



*These people know something we don't.*

In third quarters of 2011 I was (according poverty term and level - briefly) unemployed for about six months (until Feb '12) and whilst undergoing nearly 1 & 1/2 years (before the boot) for finding work for another creative agency. 10 total interviews. All failed.

Every morning I hop in and out of different libraries around CBD, Subi, Vincent St and even all the way to the library in Maylands. As I lived together with a sibling and that family communication within my ethnic culture is VERY scrutinisingly involved - I needed to stay strong, discreet and even lie to them of my circumstances.

...So what kind of "impoverished" people have I met and talked in these places? I can recall on average throughout my entire day stays at the public library as much as 1/5 (in rough factual figure I would say 1 in every 12 or 14 visitors) of them are what I could consider those who are living in poverty.

Even I was strucked upon helping out this poor old man. Somewhere between within Australian or European accent. Couldn't tell.

It was unbearably hot outside. But from my exact memory he always arrived in a barren collar shirt & torn black suit, fully covered and closed, his two makeshift bags full of clothes, a 12" worn out IBM laptop that looks as though it's from the 90s and carried his old barren portable modem to connect to the internet (presumably the library staff always ignored him).

Now it's easy for us to judge and assume based on an immediate visible fact that these people have tried nothing at all. From how they smell. From what they look like.

Well just a few words out of this old man pretty much broken that myth.

"I was a succesfull financial planner and an accountant for many, many years."

Those were his words; firmly planted on my head. In person, he looked somewhere between 60 to 70. On his semi-broken laptop screen I remembered he was looking at some stock graphs.

For the next 30 mins he almost did not stop talking about how much he knew about the government communication protocols, their infrastructure, how it works and conspiracy theories and so on.

To be honest; I was highly surprised that he openly discussed so many things up front so much at that point I was getting slightly uncomfortable as I too; caught the attention of other patrons; and one or two people tried to intervene the subject.

I've decided to politely leave the scene altogether.

Long story short - I went out of that library and began reciting what I gather on that unbearably hot sunny day on November 2011.

I was completely wrong about them - these people. They definitely know something we don't.

And no, since then I would NEVER, EVER simply conclude that it is simply their free will, their own choice to live like this; to live within the likes of poverty line or "beggars".

Hence, I was completely judgemental and wrong...So from anyone out there who has taken the time to read this; well this is simply a reminder. A reminder that poverty can happen on anyone. That's not a commercial lip service. It's a fact.

And you won't understand until you happen to gain an insight from one of them.
 
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BigMike

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Yes the only people saying houses are expensive here are those that consider themselves too good to live anywhere other that the city. Cottesloe freo etc
I live in a great area just minutes from the airport for me to fly to work
I spend alot of times bushwalking and riding round the hills bushland.
I didnt notice an affordability issue at all .
To save for a house I rented very cheaply (ie not Scarborough beach) took no overseas holidays. Drove old cars didnt own a computer . Had no internet. Was on the cheapest mobile plan. Worked 2jobs
If those conplaining about house prices did simular they might find houses more affordable

Maybe you're just awesome? A true blue battler. Anybody who takes an opposing view should swallow some cement and harden up, right?
Basically you're saying it's not an issue for you... so it shouldn't be an issue for anyone.

Here's a thought - Not everyone 'flies to work'. Lots of us work in the city. There are simply no jobs in the suburbs.. for some of us. Depends on the industry you are in. If you happen to be in an industry that has plenty of city/suburban/country options... good for you. You're a legend.

For the record I work in the city but live way out in the suburbs. I earn the medium wage and have a house that's well below the medium price range. It's not easy but I get by. I catch a train to work.
What annoys me is that the State Government fuels the urban sprawl by a) increasing first homebuyers grant for new houses. b) Refusing to embrace higher density housing close to the city (we all complain about how dead Perth is after 6pm - turns out cities with more people LIVING in them are much more lively). Then they increase the cost of public transport. Projected increases are way ahead of normal inflationary increases.
*if you don't use Public transport, and/or work in the city... feel free not to give a fuck.
 

Rochelle

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There is no need to be a beggar in this country, the social welfare is great in taking care of people in need. If there are beggars, then I reckon they are there by choice.[/quote]
Just a little thing to add........the Australian government changed the law for the kiwi neighbours. Every Kiwi who has arrived after 2001 is not entitled to any government welfare. But let's not forget.....Kiwis are allowed to work and live in Australia unlimited and pay unlimited tax (around 700 000 Kiwis live and work in Australia and pay billions of tax) but won't get anything from the government if in need.......here we go........case one of beggars (not by choice) if something happens.
 

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Wow.... "Flies" to work? I wish for a personalised jetpack future :)! Wouldn't be too good to combat the smog while airborne though.

Believe it or not in São Paulo, Brazil, (and I happen to remember in asking this in front of the lovely Gabriella at the Forum meet n greet August) - since there has been so much of an extreme gap between the poorer favelas'/slum regions and the ultra rich - one can very much indeed own personal helicopters to combat the traffic! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/São_Paulo#Helicopters
 

Thomas

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Its the most amazing and beautiful place in the world. Its when you travel abroad you become mindful of just how lucky we are to have aus as our home. I wouldnt want it to be anywhere else! ;)
 

bushseeker

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Maybe you're just awesome? A true blue battler. Anybody who takes an opposing view should swallow some cement and harden up, right?
Basically you're saying it's not an issue for you... so it shouldn't be an issue for anyone.

Here's a thought - Not everyone 'flies to work'. Lots of us work in the city. There are simply no jobs in the suburbs.. for some of us. Depends on the industry you are in. If you happen to be in an industry that has plenty of city/suburban/country options... good for you. You're a legend.

For the record I work in the city but live way out in the suburbs. I earn the medium wage and have a house that's well below the medium price range. It's not easy but I get by. I catch a train to work.
What annoys me is that the State Government fuels the urban sprawl by a) increasing first homebuyers grant for new houses. b) Refusing to embrace higher density housing close to the city (we all complain about how dead Perth is after 6pm - turns out cities with more people LIVING in them are much more lively). Then they increase the cost of public transport. Projected increases are way ahead of normal inflationary increases.
*if you don't use Public transport, and/or work in the city... feel free not to give a fuck.
You assume too much
Yes I've also worked in the city. Not forva while but I also made sure he house I bought had a bus service to the city vand and I still use it a fair bit
 

Anastacia

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Life is a beautiful thing but it is moments that we will all remember not the stuff. Perform one act of kindness a day. People will smile at you if you smile first.
Kiss and cuddle your family everyday. Listen to what people are saying without judging and always appreciate the beautiful things around you. If we all do this it will create a domino effect.
Lets start a trend xx
PS: Vivien, i agree with you 110%!
 

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Sacrifices for family. You have to laugh at some of them though really. I was visiting with friends the other day and they were discussing how they had to cut back on basics cause life was so hard.
The kids were in the other room on their i-pads watching Foxtel. What are basics nowdays?
 

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Went to the USA last year must admitt it was great to come home the yanks love Aussies but still good to come back
 
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The thing about coming home to Perth is that no matter how long your away for, it's like nothing has changed once you pass through the customs doors.

Mind you now at least all this construction is starting to breath life into our city. Maybe even one day the city can compete with the likes of melbourne, singa's, hong kong and sydney for entertainment, employment, attractions and lifestyle.
 

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I've been overseas (to live for a few months, not just on holiday), and you very quickly learn that life in most of the rest of the world is not just tough, but not highly valued either !

Lots of places are great to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there as a local, not as an expat Aussi with independent income.

Nowhere beats Oz for lifestyle, quality of life, length of life span, etc.

As to Perth becoming more like Sydney, Melbourne, Singapore, NY, etc., I hope it never does ! The best part of Perth is that it is still a large country town. If you want to live in a city like Sydney - move to Sydney !

Cheers.
 

Anastacia

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Mail-order bride is a label applied to a woman who publishes her intent to marry someone from another – usually more financially developed – country. Historically, mail-order brides were women who listed themselves in catalogs and were selected by men for marriage.
Most people think that Russian brides are desperate women who want nothing more than to marry a foreigner to get the hell out of Russia and start a new life. Russia has a man shortage; there are roughly 8 men for every 10 women in a culture which is very marriage-oriented. Consequently, many Russian women are compelled to look outside of Russia for a husband. Russian Brides feel as if you were one of the guys who would approach her at a bar: where she can say, “yes” if she likes you, and “thanks, but no, thanks” if she doesn’t. Most Russian women seeking husbands abroad are NOT focused on finding a"foreign husband" but more importantly on finding "The Husband". She does not owe man a thing just because you selected her from the thousands of other applicants or paid 10 $ for her contact details.
Vast majority Eastern European smart, educated women who want only to find a man that they can love - not extract money from. Russian women have a much better education than the brides from Asia and Latin America. About 90% of the women that apply to our agency have college or university degrees, or are current college or university students. Being intelligent and educated, Russian women are still feminine, warm and gentle.

The responses vary, but the common theme is that these women are nothing more than foreign passport hunting, gold digging, whores who will divorce these men the first chance they get?
But I tell you what, any woman a rich guy will get, chance she will be after his money. Australian, Russian, etc...
So he might as well get the best wife he can get, with the best warranty, mileage, speed, and comfort...Well, well, well…
In Russia, the definition of success for men and women is different.
For a man, success is similarly defined worldwide in financial terms. But for a woman in Russia, success is to be married to a worthy man and have a cozy home and bring up good children. That's the best way I can explain why marriage is so important for Russian women.

There are bad people among all nations; in your country, too, there are probably some men and some women who get ripped off through their marriages - unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about it. Just try to avoid the bad ones to the best of our abilities. No relationship is guaranteed problem-free; it is impossible. I do not say a marriage to a Russian woman will guarantee you will live in paradise on Earth. Not all marriages are the same! But it does not mean it has to end in trouble either.
It's CHOICE. Always, CHOICE for TWO PEOPLE.

PS: Just in case it gets personal. I am NOT mail -order bride. I didn't come on the boat. I got my status in Australia pure through education.
 

homer

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How much do they charge for postage and handling?

You just can't buy love, if that's what they are looking for. If they are looking for the "Green card", this may work for some.

Men will often treat these ladies badly because they paid good $$ for them. Some may find love. I heard stories of abuse and men who are already married bought themselves a sex slave. Not much good will come from this side of business.
 

HappyPirate

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Ahoy, my personal policy in life,
"is to keep out of other people affairs"
let them find out themselves.
Cheers and Pass the Rum
 

TheRoamingEyeball

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If possible I would orchestrate a cunning plan to get them caught in the act, hopefully involving a lot of slapstick comedy so when I film then sell it, PROFIT. In all seriousness how good is the friend? Would they just shoot the messenger? If so better it be left alone, unless ethically and morally that would go against what you stand for, ie hiding something from your friend. Just because the partner can and does doesn't mean a friend can or will :)
 
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As Homer suggested about the involvement of money in the matchmaking process, I'd be concerned the men thought less like it was paying a dating agency (the money happening to go to the woman) but rather a transaction being made for goods and sundry, thereby instilling a sense of ownership. Unless the lady was keen for that arrangement! I suppose they would do a decent amount of screening to find a guy on the same page though :)
 
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