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[mongrel.1959]

surely someone else has already seen this ad ( and lady ) and can provide the team with some feedback ??

especially the special extensive male option ..

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sam...al-massage-satisfaction-guarantee-/1203579690

Sounds like plan for sometime in the next couple of weeks

 

[gus2012]

In my experience - Mary always interrupts the service to check her phone.

You just need to be lucky that no one phones when your seeing her. This is providing to be more difficult as she gets busy.

When I was there she worked the phone with one hand and still massaged with the other which is a better effort than most.

I have had massages before where I would lose 5-10 minutes because the girl is on the phone so I just say I paid for a one hour massage so that is what I expect and get them to make up the time. In all cases I have never returned to such therapists they think the most important customer is the one messaging them, not the one on the table.

 

[longjohn]

surely someone else has already seen this ad ( and lady ) and can provide the team with some feedback ??

especially the special extensive male option ..

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sam...al-massage-satisfaction-guarantee-/1203579690

You not allowed to be completely naked already texted her but we need more punters to ask that way she will realize she is missing out on the doe.

 

[peter a]

When I was there she worked the phone with one hand and still massaged with the other which is a better effort than most.

I have had massages before where I would lose 5-10 minutes because the girl is on the phone so I just say I paid for a one hour massage so that is what I expect and get them to make up the time. In all cases I have never returned to such therapists they think the most important customer is the one messaging them, not the one on the table.

Well said Gus.
We pay reasonable money to be pampered for a while, that is why we go to these girls.
Adding an extra 10 minutes at the end won’t compensate for the loss of mood or relaxation.
All they have to do is put a voice mail on their phone with a please ring back at 11.15 ect.
I was going to see Mary as her reviews were good & she offered decent value, but a cheap price while she answers her phone is definitely not good value to me. Shame, she probably doesn’t even know she is doing anything wrong.

 

[Rossam]

You not allowed to be completely naked already texted her but we need more punters to ask that way she will realize she is missing out on the doe.

She told me male option was protate with a glove...pretty sure that involves being naked. She is clothed that may be the confusion. Too far for me so not gping

 

[peter a]

She told me male option was protate with a glove...pretty sure that involves being naked. She is clothed that may be the confusion. Too far for me so not gping

Who wears the glove? Me? That sounds ok

 

[Bill N]

Well said Gus.
We pay reasonable money to be pampered for a while, that is why we go to these girls.
Adding an extra 10 minutes at the end won’t compensate for the loss of mood or relaxation.
All they have to do is put a voice mail on their phone with a please ring back at 11.15 ect.
I was going to see Mary as her reviews were good & she offered decent value, but a cheap price while she answers her phone is definitely not good value to me. Shame, she probably doesn’t even know she is doing anything wrong.

You will likely get good service, it's only been a few occasions that I have felt this way but certainly this week was the last straw for me. On an occasion three months back she was in a foul mood supposedly as a previous punter had left without paying. Perhaps he got the same treatment as I did. Texting whilst doing the finale is really going far too far. Good luck; I have had many good experiences but no more cash going her way from this wee duck; I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

 

[Deleted member 49173]

have any of you " ripped me off " gentlemen bothered to take 1min (out of your own time I guess ? ) to tell the said service provider what you've spewed out here on TS ?
it never fails to 'amaze' me ( in the lowest possible way ) how grown men can't communicate with women.

or am I completely nutters and she actually told you " go get phkd dikhd " when you broached the matter ?

I mean, why whinge yur ballz off here if yu havnt even tried to remedy the issue - even if she only changes for precious you ..

Mary Xmas now all

 

[Bill N]

have any of you " ripped me off " gentlemen bothered to take 1min (out of your own time I guess ? ) to tell the said service provider what you've spewed out here on TS ?
it never fails to 'amaze' me ( in the lowest possible way ) how grown men can't communicate with women.

or am I completely nutters and she actually told you " go get phkd dikhd " when you broached the matter ?

I mean, why whinge yur ballz off here if yu havnt even tried to remedy the issue - even if she only changes for precious you ..

Mary Xmas now all

NWAR. And a Merry Christmas to you as well PM

 

[Darkfish]

I think I’m now over Mary. Not due to anything in particular just I’ve seen her too many times...things always go stale I guess. On the lookout for someone else to try...

Anyone got any new asian mature cheapies?

I’ll hunt about and see what I can find and report back.

 

[Treecat]

Also know as Joey

Link is broken so has been taken down

I saw Joey today. Very nice young lady. She is very slim with a great chest. She is worth seeing.
On another note, be careful when you goto their place. It seems that some nark has dobbed her into the council.

 

[gus2012]

have any of you " ripped me off " gentlemen bothered to take 1min (out of your own time I guess ? ) to tell the said service provider what you've spewed out here on TS ?
it never fails to 'amaze' me ( in the lowest possible way ) how grown men can't communicate with women.

or am I completely nutters and she actually told you " go get phkd dikhd " when you broached the matter ?

I mean, why whinge yur ballz off here if yu havnt even tried to remedy the issue - even if she only changes for precious you ..

Mary Xmas now all

I absolutely do and have no issues whatsoever communicating my thoughts. I let them get away with a little bit but no more than that. But, they typically don't listen too much and the mood goes cold. They are the way they are. Anyone who knows women knows this will happen moody little bitches. (general comment, not re Mary she was quite good with me)

We all appreciate the heads up when others provide feedback of their experience...isn't that the whole purpose of this forum? If there is a string of guys all with the same story chances are things won't change when you visit.

 

[Darkfish]

I saw Joey today. Very nice young lady. She is very slim with a great chest. She is worth seeing.
On another note, be careful when you goto their place. It seems that some nark has dobbed her into the council.

Good intel - did someone give you hassle as you were entering the house?

 

[peter a]

I saw Joey today. Very nice young lady. She is very slim with a great chest. She is worth seeing.
On another note, be careful when you goto their place. It seems that some nark has dobbed her into the council.

Yep, she definitely looks good in her pics. Glad you had a win & thanks for the heads up up on both Joey & the council.

 

[Tanky]

Cmon mate... Is this a serious question? Has happened to every punter who's been around a bit...

In my experience these masseuses fall in to 3 categories;

Cat 1 - the tease is not a tease. Its just sloppy massage. They run their hands up your thigh and only stop when they hit something, because they're not looking and are instead dreaming about something like visiting their mum back in Thailand or what they might like for dinner

Cat 2 - the tease is purposeful so as to set the massage apart from the other legit offerings in town. You'll never get a wank because its not on offer but they want you to get hard because they think it'll bring u back. This is most common amongst younger Euro travellers in legit shops, in my experience. They cant offer extras becuz it'll get them fired, or worse, if word got out so they operate with loose fingers in and around the groin and give u a smirk at the same time. You shouldnt be surprised how many married men who cant bring themselves to cop a hand job because they consider it cheating on their wives, end up being regulars of a place like this. Other massage therapists in legit shops get you hard and blatantly tell you they cant do anything about it but offer u their phone number and suggest a "private massage" after hours. These clever girls work in legit shops during the day as a way to get private clients for the night

Cat 3 - its not a legit massage but they get you hard with the teasing on purpose in the hope that you ask for extras. This is why they always try to remember to ask u in non-legit shops if you've been there before. If u say yes, they safely assume you've been asked if u want extras in a previous visit and see it as a green light to ask again knowing u wont be offended and arent an undercover cop. If u say no, you're a first timer who may or may not get asked if u want extras based on the personality type, tiredness and attitude of the masseuse at the time. It's basically the same deal with a private masseuse. If she hasn't seen u before nor explicitly advertised an erotic service with extras, she doesnt know if youre a cop or just a bloke looking for a standard massage who may get offended and blab to the local council if she asks you if you wants extras. So, getting u hard puts u in a mood which increases the chance you'll take the initiative and mention the possibility of extras so she doesnt have to run any risk of bringing it up first. Also remember some AMPs do employ masseuses who dont offer extras, so walking in to one of them is akin to a lucky-dip, unless there's another member of staff available at the time who can take over.

Wishing u all the best for xmas

PB

I myself have never been to a legit massage shop,however I do truly find there are many female physiotherapists out there running the category 2 scam you mention.many attractive ones are rather good at it

 

[peter a]

I absolutely do and have no issues whatsoever communicating my thoughts. I let them get away with a little bit but no more than that. But, they typically don't listen too much and the mood goes cold. They are the way they are. Anyone who knows women knows this will happen moody little bitches. (general comment, not re Mary she was quite good with me)

We all appreciate the heads up when others provide feedback of their experience...isn't that the whole purpose of this forum? If there is a string of guys all with the same story chances are things won't change when you visit.

We need to remember that they come from a culture & back ground that are completely different from ours. The concept of customer service in China is very different to here, HK & Taiwan are not so bad, as they have had exposure to the west for much longer & I do often notice a difference in attitude & outlook with some of those ladies. I have been going to China regularly now for over 20 years & it still surprises me how disgracefuly rude some of them come across to my delicate Anglo Saxon heritage, but to them it is both normal & acceptable behaviour, it is just the way they are. A lot of them, especially the slightly older Chinese, have grown up with poverty, squaller & hard times, now they have a chance for the almighty dollar & the freedom that it can bring so they grab it every opportunity they can get. They know that most of us don’t hang around with them for that long & many are just one time clients, it is the nature of men, so for some of the girls it’s not primarily about supplying an awesome service to us, it is just about giving themselves every opportunity of maximising income, so they answer the phone, answer the door, do whatever is needed to get that next job booked in.
Poor Mary may not even know how much of a turn off it is to her customers, but I suspect that she does & I think that she has probably made a commercial decision to operate that way, it may work well for her.
I think if I were to go see her, then I would politely make it clear on the phone that I didn’t want interruptions, it has worked for me in the past, not only with private working girls but also with some very prominent AMP’s as some of the mamasans insist the girls keep the front door unlocked & answer all inquiries instead of simply putting a sign saying “sorry, busy until 2.00 pm”.
To me it’s seems crazy but there again I have never run an AMP, these girls & their employers are very sharp operators, they have done their sums & like any successful business, they are interested in maximising profits & they do know what they are doing.
After saying that, there are some real gems out there, absolute sweethearts, but even they need to make a living and probably have bad days, bad clients and the pressures of life that affect their demeanour & service.
Hmmmm, now I feel like going to visit Mary myself & seeing how it goes.

 

[Treecat]

Good intel - did someone give you hassle as you were entering the house?

No. I speak with Sofia most days and she told me.

 

[peter a]

No. I speak with Sofia most days and she told me.

Good for you Treecat.
She looks like a nice lady.

 

[gus2012]

Regardless of cultural background if they want our money they have to meet our standards. I know many Malausian and Chinese people and trust me they know what service should be and it does not include a half arsed massage. They would not accept that either.

 

[gus2012]

As i illuded to my comments on Mary were positive she still massaged with one hand quite well

 

[gus2012]

Just digesting your masdive reply. Mainland chinese are generally pigs the chinese outside china like in se asai call them PRC not chinese to ensure they are not all tarred with the same brush. But we just have to educate them.

 

[cashewnut78]

I myself have never been to a legit massage shop,however I do truly find there are many female physiotherapists out there running the category 2 scam you mention.many attractive ones are rather good at it

I'm interested to know which female physios you're referring to.

 

[peter a]

Regardless of cultural background if they want our money they have to meet our standards. I know many Malausian and Chinese people and trust me they know what service should be and it does not include a half arsed massage. They would not accept that either.

I agree. I just think a lot of them either don’t give a shit & are bored, tired, lazy or purely in it for the easy money. That is the way some of them choose to do business, if they were interested in repeat clientele or referral work based on reviews or word of mouth, they would focus more on what their clients want, after all it is just simply customer service & salesmanship in the end.
I’m not talking about Mary, I have never seen her so I won’t comment about what she does, but I was ready to visit her on my next venture south due to her positive reviews so she is obviously doing something right but then again YMMV.
All I can say is the only way of overcoming the issue is to discuss with the girl what you want for the massage, soft, hard, slow, fast whatever, I think most girls would appreciate the input as it could make their life easier to not have to guess. Make clear that you won’t answer your phone & it would be appreciated if she did the same, obviously being polite & respectful while discussing it. As I mentioned, it has worked for me in the past & I can’t see any reason why it won’t continue to work now. If the girl still doesn’t give you the service or attention that you want then time to move on. Posting a review or not would be up to the individual punter I guess.

 

[Bill N]

We need to remember that they come from a culture & back ground that are completely different from ours. The concept of customer service in China is very different to here, HK & Taiwan are not so bad, as they have had exposure to the west for much longer & I do often notice a difference in attitude & outlook with some of those ladies. I have been going to China regularly now for over 20 years & it still surprises me how disgracefuly rude some of them come across to my delicate Anglo Saxon heritage, but to them it is both normal & acceptable behaviour, it is just the way they are. A lot of them, especially the slightly older Chinese, have grown up with poverty, squaller & hard times, now they have a chance for the almighty dollar & the freedom that it can bring so they grab it every opportunity they can get. They know that most of us don’t hang around with them for that long & many are just one time clients, it is the nature of men, so for some of the girls it’s not primarily about supplying an awesome service to us, it is just about giving themselves every opportunity of maximising income, so they answer the phone, answer the door, do whatever is needed to get that next job booked in.
Poor Mary may not even know how much of a turn off it is to her customers, but I suspect that she does & I think that she has probably made a commercial decision to operate that way, it may work well for her.
I think if I were to go see her, then I would politely make it clear on the phone that I didn’t want interruptions, it has worked for me in the past, not only with private working girls but also with some very prominent AMP’s as some of the mamasans insist the girls keep the front door unlocked & answer all inquiries instead of simply putting a sign saying “sorry, busy until 2.00 pm”.
To me it’s seems crazy but there again I have never run an AMP, these girls & their employers are very sharp operators, they have done their sums & like any successful business, they are interested in maximising profits & they do know what they are doing.
After saying that, there are some real gems out there, absolute sweethearts, but even they need to make a living and probably have bad days, bad clients and the pressures of life that affect their demeanour & service.
Hmmmm, now I feel like going to visit Mary myself & seeing how it goes.

Chances are that it will go well. I had some good service. She performs a firm massage really well and knows what she's doing. Good luck but likely you won't need it.

 

[peter a]

Chances are that it will go well. I had some good service. She performs a firm massage really well and knows what she's doing. Good luck but likely you won't need it.

Thanks Bill, I’ll let you know.

 

[openotherside]

Send her a text.. she'll send details back with a photo. Not going to post it.. she would have it in her ad if she wanted to do that.

So this is her.

Did she send you one of those pics?

 

[steelblue]

So this is her.

Did she send you one of those pics?

I saw her a couple of weeks back. She told me she was going south fir a week then back to Brisbane.

She looked ok but no connection whatsoever so if she dies turn up again I wouldn’t recommend her.

Part Singaporean but born in Oz and string Aussie accent. If she realised that being a bit warmer would bring repeat business then it would improve a lot. Massage was ok. HJ was uninspired but did the job. Not a bad body.

SB

 

[georgo]

Visited Mary today , First time for a while have known Mary for about 5 years now, still a very professional massage and very polite to talk to.
Did mention nicely about the phone messages , and text once briefly during my massage and said sorry straight away afterwards so I am more than ok with that.
She does have a living to make so I think we should respect that if it is kept to a minimum .

 

[peter a]

Visited Mary today , First time for a while have known Mary for about 5 years now, still a very professional massage and very polite to talk to.
Did mention nicely about the phone messages , and text once briefly during my massage and said sorry straight away afterwards so I am more than ok with that.
She does have a living to make so I think we should respect that if it is kept to a minimum .

Thanks Georgo, she must be doing a pretty good job to keep you coming back for 5 years. Nicely written comment.

 

[Mopar63]

It’s been quite a while since I’ve visited Mary, but not because of a bad experience, she has always given a great massage, and has a true sensual to her service.