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Would I get anything if I showed a companion card or any other proof that I'm disabled to any of the amps?

Bigdy

Gold Member
Well it turns out is true

You can be in the dole and put hookers in your "care plan". What a fucking joke.

Since 2020 is a possibility, no wonder why sex prices are through the roof.
The motherfuckers also go on to say that this should not affect NDIS sustainability... obviously, there is heaps of migrants working their asses off to pay for it and labour backing down on the tax cuts.
There is no specification of frequency nor type of services covered. Up to the case manager.. who obviously needs to justify somehow his pimping fees. Sorry.. disability administration providing fees.

Sick.

 
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Bigdy

Gold Member
Well. It turns out is true.

You only need a willing ndis pimp.. sorry case manager to get your budget. Happy punring, as if there are no better use of public funds.

Sick

 

WildBrumby

Just A Former Rider In This Online Rodeo
Legend Member
Well it turns out is true

You can be in the dole and put hookers in your "care plan". What a fucking joke.

The motherfuckers also go on to say that this should not affect NDIS sustainability... obviously, there is heaps of migrants working their asses off to pay for it.
there is no specification of frequency nor type of services covered. Up to the case manager.. who obviously needs to justify somehow his pimping fees. Sorry.. disability administration providing fees.

Feeling sick of that rubbish.

A good find, thank you for sharing but does not validate your point.

You are better living in a country where people who are aged or disabled get outcast by society with no support.

People with disabilities or aged have every right to have inclusiveness in community.

Many contribute to the community through workshops and volunteering. Some having paid or still pay taxes themselves.

Maybe stop flogging a dead horse because that’s all you’re doing.
 

WildBrumby

Just A Former Rider In This Online Rodeo
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I’ll always support/defend the inclusion of people with disabilities or the aged into the community in what ever way is meaningful to them.

They deserve inclusion not just existence through their lives. I have old school country values.
 

mrys

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You only pay a shitload of tax if you make a shitload of money. Over the years I've had some big tax bills to pay. TBH what keeps things in perspective for me is that my taxes are helping people in need. I know it's a little delusional but if I think about the difference that money makes to people so I can reconcile the financial impact more easily. On my next tax bill I will think of a person with a disability who may get an hour of connection with a compassionate and caring WL. At a human level that's my taxes well spent!!!!!!! Oh and I do know a lovely WL who provides services to people with disabilities. She is the primary carer for a family member who has disabilities.......empathy and care guaranteed.
 

WildBrumby

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My brother has a disability so I empathise with people who do.

I’ve encouraged and motivated him through life and even got him a job driving long-haul teaching him how to restrain cargo etc.

Best memories ever driving through outback Australia with him, sharing experiences and laughs, then watching him develop into solo driving in challenging country. He’s my hero.

People haven’t made a choice to have a disability but they need to have every choice to embrace life in whatever way enriches them.
 

C7Vol

Gold Member
You gotta be kidding me.
are you telling me that part of my extremely high taxes, yes, the money the goverment steals from my family every year and for which I see little return.

my hard earned is not only financing my drug addic neighbour but is also financing some dude in the dole going fucking scorts?. Fucking seriously?.

No, not dole recipients. We are talking about people with disabilities, and other types of care funding. In one of the most prominent cases, the full bench of the Federal Court unanimously ruled that a 40yo female with MS was entitled to use her NDIS funding for sexual services.
 

WildBrumby

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Legend Member
Thank you all for your contributions to this discussion, I’m going to go back through it and see if the links will be beneficial in other threads.
 

baal6007

Foundation Member
Some of these responses… lol. I fall into the category of a relatively high tax paying person.

Maybe once we’ve solved some real problems, like mums living out of cars, kids dying in emergency waiting rooms, ambulance ramping, elderly folks dying of a heart attack while waiting hours for an ambo, maybe then we can spend some taxpayers money on getting a disabled person a handjob at an AMP. Get a grip folks.
 

WildBrumby

Just A Former Rider In This Online Rodeo
Legend Member
Some of these responses… lol. I fall into the category of a relatively high tax paying person.

Maybe once we’ve solved some real problems, like mums living out of cars, kids dying in emergency waiting rooms, ambulance ramping, elderly folks dying of a heart attack while waiting hours for an ambo, maybe then we can spend some taxpayers money on getting a disabled person a handjob at an AMP. Get a grip folks.
Yes certainly am getting a grip in seeing that the original poster who had a genuine question, then made fun of, gets a reasonable answer.

I’ve been through those scenarios you mentioned both professionally and personally bud and know it’s more than funding that is going to fix those other issues.
 

WildBrumby

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No shit. Doesn’t mean we should prioritise people getting a handjob over real problems.
You’re flogging a dead horse too. No way I’d ever back down on this. I don’t care if I’d get kicked off this site, I’ll always stick up for people who I see get ridiculed for asking a genuine question then get trolled. So much of this bullshit happens on Talkinsex. Forums are for people to pass on information to help each other not piss for distance.
 

baal6007

Foundation Member
You’re flogging a dead horse too. No way I’d ever back down on this. I don’t care if I’d get kicked off this site, I’ll always stick up for people who I see get ridiculed for asking a genuine question then get trolled. So much of this bullshit happens on Talkinsex. Forums are for people to pass on information to help each other not piss for distance.
Disagreeing with someone is not trolling. I am happy to agree to disagree on this one.
 

WildBrumby

Just A Former Rider In This Online Rodeo
Legend Member
Reading through all the information in the links I can see that they are trying to find the best medium to achieve the needs of the person with a disability.

The case that went through the court was especially an interesting read and the rights of the recipient in using the funds.

It doesn’t mean it’s all used towards sexual services, in some cases none of it might be used that way but the choice is there.

Having those funds available to access a Sex Therapist or Councilor or to purchase items to assist with sexual needs or assistance in using internet sites.
 

mrys

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Disagreeing with someone is not trolling. I am happy to agree to disagree on this one.
Agreeing to disagree is a very welcome stance. I wish all posts on here had the same restraint and respect. We are all different but all similar in the same breath. Going back to the original post from Vlad.....I can't help but think we could have been more constructive. He is more than the sum total of his contributions here. Lets face it.....talkinsex is only a tiny slice of who we are (I would hope)
 

baal6007

Foundation Member
There are plenty of men and women out there who for whatever reason are single, havent met the right person, aren't comfortable or cant afford paying money for sex, etc.

It's not up to the taxpayer to meet the sexual needs of anyone. To suggest otherwise is just entitled.
 

baal6007

Foundation Member
This is interesting. NDIS rate of $193.33 per hour for sex therapists. Down the bottom of the page, in tips to remember. It states It won’t fund a sex worker
To me this is pretty much everything that is wrong with the current system. I mean seriously? Sex therapy is being funded by the tax payer? We are close to a trillion dollars in debt, we need to get our priorities right.
 

WildBrumby

Just A Former Rider In This Online Rodeo
Legend Member
Disagreeing with someone is not trolling. I am happy to agree to disagree on this one.
Yes agree to disagree but no one should be belittling another person’s genuine question to the point they get discouraged and take it down.

I’ve seen some members do it to newcomers or other members consistently through threads, that’s trolling in my opinion.

Even up to when a person then posts the request to have their account closed, some get belittled but members in the Account Closure Thread that don’t need to comment there if not closing an account.
 

mrys

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To me this is pretty much everything that is wrong with the current system. I mean seriously? Sex therapy is being funded by the tax payer? We are close to a trillion dollars in debt, we need to get our priorities right.
Once upon a time we supported and encouraged people with a fair go. I'm not sure the same can be said today. Yes we give financial support to some but ultimately everyone wants to feel useful, valued and welcome. There is a very small percentage that 'milk' the system. Most just want the dignity that goes with being an accepted, valued contributor to our communities.
 

WildBrumby

Just A Former Rider In This Online Rodeo
Legend Member
Once upon a time we supported and encouraged people with a fair go. I'm not sure the same can be said today. Yes we give financial support to some but ultimately everyone wants to feel useful, valued and welcome. There is a very small percentage that 'milk' the system. Most just want the dignity that goes with being an accepted, valued contributor to our communities.
I think this is a thoughtful summary. I’m going to be resting it at this.
 

C7Vol

Gold Member
I will look into the NDIS more. One would expect that state laws would come into play with this. Personally, I would have no issue providing service at a lower rate for those with a disability.
This is complex. Some funding is done through the State Government, and some through the Federal Government. NDIS is all Federal. WA State funding is mostly through the Department of Communities.
 

Bigdy

Gold Member
My brother has a disability so I empathise with people who do.

I’ve encouraged and motivated him through life and even got him a job driving long-haul teaching him how to restrain cargo etc.

Best memories ever driving through outback Australia with him, sharing experiences and laughs, then watching him develop into solo driving in challenging country. He’s my hero.

People haven’t made a choice to have a disability but they need to have every choice to embrace life in whatever way enriches them.
That is the right way, encouraging, reducing dependency, cultivating skills. I am aware not every person with disability can do it. But you certainly have helped much more that way. Kudos
 

Bigdy

Gold Member
Some of these responses… lol. I fall into the category of a relatively high tax paying person.

Maybe once we’ve solved some real problems, like mums living out of cars, kids dying in emergency waiting rooms, ambulance ramping, elderly folks dying of a heart attack while waiting hours for an ambo, maybe then we can spend some taxpayers money on getting a disabled person a handjob at an AMP. Get a grip folks.
Exactly . Priorities!
 
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