Rochelle's old posts

[colzilla]

What skin colour was the offender?

 

[Master Yoda]

There's absolutely no excuse with bullet being the only solution. Sick of these shits roaming the streets terrorising society, it's up to authorities to get of their asses and prevent this shit.

I agree 100% with how authorities need to do what they are paid to do and eradicate such presences on the streets. However most of the police force is directed to activities that can raise revenue.

Wish they were there more often when people like that devastated elderly lady needs them.

 

[Contrarian]

What skin colour was the offender?

Does it matter what the offender's skin colour was?

 

[colzilla]

No it doesn't matter but someone brought up race. The little shit probably had a bad upbringing too.

 

[Happy2]

Parents why isn't more of the blame put onto parents rather than the police
It seems even our teachers are expected to be teaching these kids boundaries when that should be part of good parenting
And of course the evil discipline word will come up ,or the lack thereof

 

[colzilla]

Mr2 did you get your bottom smacked like I did when you were a youngster?

 

[Tania Admin]

I used to get whacked with a plaited leather dog leash, to the point where sometimes I couldn't attend school. I believe in discipline but some parents go to far (Like my mother did)..

Though now I don't mind a little whack on the bottom here and there

 

[Happy2]

Yes Dad loved the belt But unlike Tanias instance it was fully controlled. Not that I thought so at the time
Still dont like cutthroat razors because I see one and I automatically think of the leather strop

 

[HappyPirate]

Ahoy, some how I do not think bring back public flogging is going to help this kid or kids, but, you never know, it may help.
If that fails, go straight to the guillotine

 

[Contrarian]

Let's face it - what the little shit did is unforgiveable. But he must very sick to do that sort of thing - and this where we have to assess - is he a victim of an illness and should be treated like a patient or a prisoner or a prisoner required to undergo rehab.

All very well of course - but there are other victims here too - namely the elderly lady in question and her family are probably more traumatized than anyone else.

 

[Dallas]

I always got the strap because I was told my room looked like a Brothel, but having spent a number of hours in one now I told my parents today that they were wrong and it never looked anything like one - had no nice ladies for a start.

 

[Contrarian]

I worked in a large government organisation once (yes we all have skeletons in our wine cellars) - rife with politics, egos and backstabbing. Someone had a poster on their wall; "Don't tell my mum I work for XYZ, she thinks I play the piano in a brothel!"

 

[Master Yoda]

Parents why isn't more of the blame put onto parents rather than the police
It seems even our teachers are expected to be teaching these kids boundaries when that should be part of good parenting
And of course the evil discipline word will come up ,or the lack thereof

I can't agree more with what you say. All values and conditioning starting from within a nuclear family is the rightful way.

However it is upsetting that when an incident like this happens, police officers are just not resourced to be patrolling enough for these difficult and non-paying tasks.

Imagine what its like if half of the units assigned to speed traps and booze buses was assigned to protecting the innocent. Even if its just showing enough of a presence in some suburbs to deter the antisocial verbal and visual unpleasantness from offenders of all ages that none of us like to see.

Wish they were there to prevent or intervene the rape of this elderly lady.

 

[Rochelle]

I didn't follow up on the story. But I have to say that the few people I talked to about it (outside the forum) first question they asked.......'was he an Aboriginal?'
And yes, I am with you, Contrarian it doesn't matter what colour he is. Bad people come in all shapes and colours and religions......so why ask for it? Only to confirm their own racial theories.

However I did ask myself the question 'where are the parents?'
Can you blame the kid? Or do you have to blame the parents for being what.......to slack?.........to hard?.........not at home?.........I really don't know. I don't believe that bad upbringing counts. I have met a few awesome people with bad upbringing. I think the kid has to take responsibility for his actions. Who decided that youngsters can't be hold responsible for their actions in the first place? The sooner they learn the better.

R.xxxxxxx

 

[colzilla]

Was he Aboriginal?....

I have plenty of Aboriginal friends.

 

[Tania Admin]

I didn't follow up on the story. But I have to say that the few people I talked to about it (outside the forum) first question they asked.......'was he an Aboriginal?'
And yes, I am with you, Contrarian it doesn't matter what colour he is. Bad people come in all shapes and colours and religions......so why ask for it? Only to confirm their own racial theories.

However I did ask myself the question 'where are the parents?'
Can you blame the kid? Or do you have to blame the parents for being what.......to slack?.........to hard?.........not at home?.........I really don't know. I don't believe that bad upbringing counts. I have met a few awesome people with bad upbringing. I think the kid has to take responsibility for his actions. Who decided that youngsters can't be hold responsible for their actions in the first place? The sooner they learn the better.

R.xxxxxxx

100% on the nail. Obviously up-bringing and environment can be a factor, but at 15 the ability to know "I want better" and to make a move towards it is up to the individual (there is a lot of help these days for young people in this position). Plenty of people leave their homes at a young age due to bad environments and make it in life, scarred a little perhaps but good people, successful people (does not mean materially either), with healthy attitudes towards life, work, people and animals too. A few yes go down a bad path, everything comes back to choices.
Then I have also met really bad people who come from good, solid and financially well off families and they are complete "assholes" and there is no hope for them.
We never know what is going on inside peoples homes, who is hurting, mentally or physically and how. But everyone can think for themselves from a young age and choose Wrong or Right.

 

[colzilla]

Yeah! but raping grannies though.

 

[Tania Admin]

Raping anyone at any age says Not Right In the Head, a grandmother, well I am not looking forward to the next time we hear of this Young person offending. Scary individual in my eyes.

 

[colzilla]

He could even end up being a client.

 

[Tania Admin]

He could even end up being a client.

Better they be a client than resorting to forced, un-consenting sex.

 

[svengali]

I can almost profile this young lout and how the scenario will play out in court.

Deprived upbringing.
Parents too boozed/drugged to impose any control or discipline.
No schooling worth a damn.
Probably known to Police for petty crime and/or car theft.
Probably a criminal record running to several pages.
I.Q only just in double figures due to substance abuse from an early age, possibly even foetal alcohol syndrome.
Possibility of repeat offending if eventually released- around 80%.
Possbility of rehabilitation while in prison Zero to none.

A bullet between the eyes would probably be the best solution for him and for those innocent people who will probably suffer at his hands in the future.

 

[colzilla]

I doubt if granny rapers can afford a visit to a brothel.

 

[Lilly Sweetheart]

Hard to believe but your sweetheart was a shit of a teenager for 2yrs as I was being bullied and it wasn't the 'cool' thing to tell your parents. I put my parents thru hell with my potty mouth and disrespecting them. I was lashing out because I was so alone and just trying to fit in. I was to be the 'cool kid' and would succumb to peer pressure but I was lucky that the people I hung out with weren't bad eggs and my parents were strict so I was never allowed to wander the streets.

I eventually got friends and my whole attitude changed and I was happy and trust worthy. I always knew right from wrong but was just misunderstood as I wouldn't communicate to anyone. My parents were nor to blame for my rebellion it was the bullies! Kids can be so cruel.
I am so thankful my parents NEVER gave up on me and our house was built like fort Knox so I couldn't sneak out at night to cause trouble.

 

[Lilly Sweetheart]

Let them be sentenced to juvenile detention centre for a year and do it military style or brat camp style and actually take their privileges and freedom away! Unfortunately we don't have the resources to do this so back to roaming the streets they go!
Australia NEEDS harsher penalties.

 

[Master Yoda]

Hard to believe but your sweetheart was a shit of a teenager for 2yrs as I was being bullied and it wasn't the 'cool' thing to tell your parents. I put my parents thru hell with my potty mouth and disrespecting them. I was lashing out because I was so alone and just trying to fit in. I was to be the 'cool kid' and would succumb to peer pressure but I was lucky that the people I hung out with weren't bad eggs and my parents were strict so I was never allowed to wander the streets.

I eventually got friends and my whole attitude changed and I was happy and trust worthy. I always knew right from wrong but was just misunderstood as I wouldn't communicate to anyone. My parents were nor to blame for my rebellion it was the bullies! Kids can be so cruel.
I am so thankful my parents NEVER gave up on me and our house was built like fort Knox so I couldn't sneak out at night to cause trouble.

We spend way too much on resources and even more for the ADMIN behind every misused resource. You're right harsher penalties will take resources. We got it....... We just don't distribute it well.

 

[colzilla]

So whats the deal Lilly one bullet or two for the granny raper?

 

[Al Swearengen]

So whats the deal Lilly one bullet or two for the granny raper?

Two. Make sure hes gone.

 

[Contrarian]

I'm trying not to be negative here but it's tough really. I've seen incidents and i'm sure everyone here has seen them.

1. Saw a security guard and manager stop a juvenile at Woolies in town. The kid pulls out a lollipop from his pocket. Manager confirms he doesn't have a receipt and and kid confirms he was stealing it. Manager says piss off and don't come back to the store ever (yeah, that'll work). But I can understand where the manager's coming from - waste a whole lot of time on a brat who'll have nothing done to him while he's got a store, budgets and regional managers to answer to.

2. Bit more personal - a friend's son get beaten up at school by a fucking idiot. Beaten up so badly, part of his face needs to be reconstructed. Friend goes to see the little shit's parent - a layabout guzzling beer at home after a day at the workshop. And he's blase about it. What do you want me to do about it mate if your son can't defend himself? Not my problem. You want me to tell him off - okay - swigs beer and shuts door on my friend. And my friend is a very decent, churchgoing family man.

I could go on but it's obvious - the social hierarchy of parents and the system is rotten to the core and it ain't going to get any better. It's going to be vigilante-ism soon, if it hasn't happened already. And that's when it gets really scary!

Each man for himself, all of us carrying weapons from sharpened ball point nibs to pepper sprays to blades to guns - 'cos that's the law of the streets. The conventional law and order has failed us.

 

[junglejimbo]

I've seen a few of these shows around the world and I just get spun out how amazing these performers are , plus I do tend to get thoughts in my head of what it would like to hook up with some of them lol

 

[Mrs Langtrees]

I went on Friday a birthday treat from my daughter, it was the best Cirque de soleile I have been to very funny laughed the night away.