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I’d like to also add, that it’s down right selfish for anyone with COVID symptoms or even positive to go out and mix with ppl be that shopping for groceries or watching a movie or going for a massage etc etc.
Punting in peak covid
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sircurious
Legend Member
Because some people think it impinges their personal freedoms to sign in or to wear a mask, but if they visit a WL - by law all sexual acts must be protected, so I wonder why these same people are not complaining about their personal freedoms being taken away then.
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sexbomb
Gold Member
I've signed in, but I use my punting phone, not my proper phone. However, all the time, I do have a tinge in the back of my head about signing in. The government has shown they're willing to use these numbers for purposes not related to health. And technically speaking, sex work isn't "legal" or is dubious unless at brothels I think. So all in all, there is a legitimate worry.
In general, my philosophy is to "Get Vaxxed, unless you're well stay at home". Simples. Besides, I am pretty sure even gov has given up on contact tracing everyone.
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No idea what to do
Legend Member
Go Nev
Talk about read us our rights
your rant was going so well until you thought of this................
BUT human behaviour tends to be consistent, so if I see you ignore public health stuff that only protects other people, then I'll assume you're also an asshole in other situations.
The Frenchman
Talk about read us our rights
your rant was going so well until you thought of this................
BUT human behaviour tends to be consistent, so if I see you ignore public health stuff that only protects other people, then I'll assume you're also an asshole in other situations.
The Frenchman
sircurious
Legend Member
In WA there is actually a prostitution act, as the industry in WA operates under a containment policy, so there are penalties for providing unsafe sexual acts in a brothel, massage parlour and in a private setting. I have attached a copy of the current act which details the penalties. The current penalty if caught having unprotected sex is $5000.
WALW - Prostitution Act 2000 - Home Page (legislation.wa.gov.au)
No issue signing in, its just a massage after all
beachbandit
Gold Member
Interesting replies of different opinions. Here in WA its still a thing as ma y are still concerned about the whole covid thing. Have fa.ily who had it months ago over east and had md sypmtons. All recovered in a few days.
What we dont get told my media or govt is flu stats pre covid.
So in 2019 25,000 people died on oz from influenza related issues.
So far in 2 years of covid there have been 5500 deaths in oz related to covid.
Yep, do what we need to do. If ya feel like a punt just do it I say.
Have a cracker weekend all
What we dont get told my media or govt is flu stats pre covid.
So in 2019 25,000 people died on oz from influenza related issues.
So far in 2 years of covid there have been 5500 deaths in oz related to covid.
Yep, do what we need to do. If ya feel like a punt just do it I say.
Have a cracker weekend all
Slugger1
Legend Member
I agree that flu numbers have been down due to lockdown masks and border closures but what is the source for your number of 25,000 deaths in 2019?
The number of deaths due to influenza in 2019 was 902 and in 2018 it was 148 according to the official numbers.
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DeletedUser
Agree with both posts above.
COVID has been blamed or ‘attributed’ to so many things in the last 2-years!
Flu for instance, WA for instance had large numbers of fatality in 2018/2019 yet 3020/2021-22 I haven’t heard it in the media? Suicidal fatalities are the same, yet also don’t get publicised or spoken about.
Society feels it easier to say COVID!
it’s pretty sad really, as there is underlining issues other than COVID.
COVID has been blamed or ‘attributed’ to so many things in the last 2-years!
Flu for instance, WA for instance had large numbers of fatality in 2018/2019 yet 3020/2021-22 I haven’t heard it in the media? Suicidal fatalities are the same, yet also don’t get publicised or spoken about.
Society feels it easier to say COVID!
it’s pretty sad really, as there is underlining issues other than COVID.
beachbandit
Gold Member
Yeah me bad. Read wrong article.
Apologies.
Im just over it all. WA is finally waking up that what happened over east was always going to happen here.
Bluey
Gold Member
Can someone please explain why should we sign in at all anymore. They are not listing hotspots. Anywhere. Why do you need to be tracked on where you were? If you test positive they don’t even ask you where you’ve been, except for the day you tested positive. But where is that reported for all to check,? Tthey just tell you to tell your close contacts that you are positive.No issue signing in, its just a massage after all
Can someone please explain why we are are required to check in at all anymore? They do not list hotspots anymore. So you can’t check if you’ve been somewhere that you may have caught it. If you test positive, they don’t even ask where you have been, except for the day you got your test done. And then what do they do with that info? Nothing it seems. They just tell you to tell your close contacts. What’s the point of it all, am I missing sumthing ?No issue signing in, its just a massage after all
Slugger1
Legend Member
I agree, with so many numbers now they don't have the resources to follow it up. I only scan in at venues that require proof of vaccination now.
I just assume that everyone potentially has it and take what measures I can to protect myself.
matt22
Bronze Member
I agree, restaurants etc where you’re going to spend longer than 15mins in (and unmasked), it make sense. But supermarkets where you’re wearing a mask the whole time doesn’t. If you look on the Helathy WA website now, they only seem to be reporting regional places, yet there are thousands of cases per day in Perth. So what is the point if they aren’t contacting most people anyway?
dan60
Diamond Member
i don't think many people thought we could keep omicron out.
at least we stopped the early variants & the delta variant, which could prove to have long term repercussions, months and years down the track.
rolling02
Foundation Member
Was a good story till the truth came out. lol
sexbomb
Gold Member
Huh. That's real interesting. I guess I was told wrong. So, would "AMP" as we know them, be legally perfectly fine? or not being a "declared brothel" (if that's even a thing) or being a "massage shop" mean getting prostitution services at the venue be illegal?
Obbie
Legend Member
I think we always knew it was going to happen . But how bad it was going to get we didn't know .
sircurious
Legend Member
The legislation defines prostitution as payment between two or more parties where sexual services are exchanged - so in that case it would include all businesses where that occurs.
sexbomb
Gold Member
Nev
Gold Member
Thankyou. I had a quick read.
The version of the Act at http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdb/au/legis/wa/consol_act/pa2000205/ if you scroll to the bottom of this page and download the RTF may be easier. Some sections have been amended since the original Act, but not these sections:
"4. Prostitution
When this Act refers to prostitution it means prostitution in which payment is consideration for the sexual stimulation of a person (the client) by means of physical contact between the client and another person (the prostitute), or between either of them and anything controlled by or emanating from the other, and it is irrelevant whether payment is in money or any other form. [So strap-ons, controlling toys over the internet are included, free rent and Bitcoin are included.]
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5. Seeking prostitute in or in view or within hearing of public place
(1) A person who, in or in the view or within hearing of a public place, seeks another person to act as a prostitute commits an offence under this subsection.
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(3) (a) if it is a simple offence, to imprisonment for 2 years;
...
(4) For the purposes of subsection (1), a person (in this section called the offender) seeks another person to act as a prostitute if the offender —
(a) invites or requests another person to act as a prostitute; or
...
(5) It makes no difference —
...
(b) whether or not a particular person is sought to act as a prostitute;
[So phoning brothel while sitting visibly in your car is an offence.]
...
7. Seeking to induce person to act as prostitute
(1) A person is not to —
...
(e) do anything else, or refrain from doing anything,
with the intention of inducing another person who is not a child to act, or continue to act, as a prostitute.
(2) An offence under subsection (1) is a crime.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 10 years.
[Explains why WA Brothels have wierd business structures to ensure they don't have employer relationships with prostitutes.]
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8. Prophylactic to be used
It is an offence for a person to engage in an act of prostitution without using a prophylactic that is appropriate for preventing the transmission of bodily fluid from one person to another.
Penalty: $5 000." [So it's an offence doing a paid blowjob without a condom]
BUT: Nothing in this Act makes it illegal doing the act in view of a public place, because that law's elsewhere.
Most of the Act gives police special powers to search for and prosecute child or involuntary prostitution. Police often don't need warrants, making it reasonable for brothels to have no documentation of prostitutes' real names or identities when they keep individual transactions low enough to avoid GST record keeping issues*.
* General advice only. I am not a lawyer.
No idea what to do
Legend Member
And I'm no Councillor either It's about the advice guys
Read and take notice or ignore and forget.
The Frenchman
Read and take notice or ignore and forget.
The Frenchman
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Albany
I'm looking forward to getting Covid so I can be bed ridden 
jebradio
Gold Member
But does that mean it needs to be agreed and paid beforehand the AMPS I go to there is no discussion other than massage... extras are not "discussed" ... it's usually just a "You like" ... and it's known pricing so nothing agreed upon..
beachbandit
Gold Member
So sugar babies also fall under the prostitution laws.
Interesting really, as they say there not prostitutes.
Lol
Interesting really, as they say there not prostitutes.
Lol
sircurious
Legend Member
I don't know - however I know of one massage parlour in Bunbury that got closed down and the manager/employees prosecuted for running a 'illegal' brothel quite a few years ago. Extras were offered to an undercover police officer when visiting. Everything in the shop was confiscated - massage beds etc. The manager was given a suspended jail sentence but heavily fined. I went to school with the managers younger sister which is how I heard about this case. Unfortunately she was also 'asking to be investigated' as the massage parlour was within about 150m of the Bunbury Police Station - so not a very smart location to set up shop either.
Plumage
Diamond Member
No. Just that money changes hand at some point (before, during, after) for the sexual service.
But given this is a Covid thread, maybe this part of the discussion should be in this interesting thread instead:
Nev
Gold Member
