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It's about supply and demand. The demand skyrocketed during the mining boom. And a whole lot of people came over to WA. And then interest rates were at an unnaturally 30 year low in the mid-noughties. And then people started buying second properties with money they didn't have i.e. equity.

Enter the noveau riche a.k.a. cashed up bogans who could afford higher rents and people who had to compete with them. It reached the stage where landlords were putting people in one room and expected them to outbid each other.

The GFC came along and some people were caught out - banks repossessed their houses but the borrowers were dismayed that the selling price of the house was LOWER in value so they still had to repay a debt to make up for the deficit.

Conventionally, borrowers could get loans for 33 year loans. Enter the 44 year loan and some people have taken it up attracted by the even lower repayments. All that being said Armada, for years many people have felt that Perth had to catch up with Sydney and Melbourne. And it appears they have. Also remember that the motives are now different as the people get wiser. They look at Sydney where people bought cheap land in the 1900s and have now made a killing. In two capital cities, people have decided to speculate i.e. Darwin and Perth because they believe the population CAN ONLY go up. And then greed feeds upon greed.

I dread to think WA goes the way of Sydney and Melbourne and almost every house is sold via auction and substitute bidders who drive up prices falsely.

So will property prices go down in Perth? Well, all over the world, property prices go up and then go down. To me it's simple - you look at what you can afford to repay and then go for it. Of course, you assess things like your needs e.g. near a railway, school etc. I think too many people want it all right away. There's no need to go for the 4 bed, 2 bath house with home theatre when a lovely 2 bed townhouse or apartment will do and then trade up as the years go.

Thus endeth the sermon. Go in piece (of land).
 

Diamond Dog

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Australia's rising property prices have been funded my rising incomes and money pouring into the country from China and other people investing in mining.
If China sours economically expect a sharp reduction in incomes, employment and housing prices.
 

Fudd

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...and just to add the icing on the cake, Sydney & Perth are in the top 10 most expensive cities for.........PARKING! Sydney rated 6th and Perth 7th. I can understand this in places like London, New York etc due to the number of people living in congested these cities......but Perth??? The term "Rip-off" springs to mind!

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Mrs Langtrees

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Perth was the cheapest real estate city for many years, and its our time to shine. Supply and Demand always rules the price and always will.
 

Mile High

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Hi Armada,

Perth property prices are probably extremely overvalued, but they have been that way for a few years now with only a minor fall in prices. It seems more likely that prices will go nowhere for a few years as they are currently about 35% over valued compared to the norm.
But for those of us with property, high prices are not such a bad thing if you brought in a lot lower.
 
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Perth boy

Hi Armada,

Perth property prices are probably extremely overvalued, but they have been that way for a few years now with only a minor fall in prices. It seems more likely that prices will go nowhere for a few years as they are currently about 35% over valued compared to the norm.
But for those of us with property, high prices are not such a bad thing if you brought in a lot lower.

Almost agree, property's in the under 600k area are selling faster than the norm however have slowed over the past month or so. A few months ago the cheaper end of town was selling fast and it was not unusual for a few offers on the same property in a day. Buyer had to pay full price. The upper end market and commercial is not moving and wont.
Supply and demand as well as income all affects property prices.

What will happen to the prices??? Well I will bet my left nut its about to go down and I would say around 15/20 precent.

Business is getting harder and harder at the moment for most sectors, the mining boom has finished and hang one to you tail because its going to hit hard.
 
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colzilla

Perth is a dump and house prices have always been way too expensive for a parochial back water.
 

aussie_single34

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I bought my house 9 years ago and since then it has doubled in "value"
I'm glad I bought when I did and at the time I thought I was overextending myself financially
I don't know how people do it nowdays living a life of debt

I don't really see the property values going down much if at all.. .but I do think they will stay stagnant for awhile
I believe housing prices were undervalued for awhile here in Perth considering its such a lovely place to live for the most part

And as for supply and demand... theres still plenty of empty houses about that I know of... but people want what people want and they just might not choose to live in certain areas.

I'd like to find a nice newish 300 sq m factory unit for a reasonable price in a central location... but think I can find one thats not overpriced.... nope.
 
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Something else to remember about houses going up in value - it's all paper profits after a while unless you can afford to hold your cash and wait for some bubble burst which could let you reap profits. You buy a house for $300k and some years later, its value goes up to $600k and you sell it - but where's your profit if all other houses have risen in value?
 
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Perth boy

aussie_single34;213174 I'd like to find a nice newish 300 sq m factory unit for a reasonable price in a central location... but think I can find one thats not overpriced.... nope.[/QUOTE said:
I have a 190m and a 650m SOR if that helps. New never used.
 

Anastacia

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Perth was the cheapest real estate city for many years, and its our time to shine. Supply and Demand always rules the price and always will.

Yes, supply and demand, the THUMB rules or market. .There is plenty of LAND in Perth...Is it not enough builders to satisfy demand?
 

Anastacia

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...and just to add the icing on the cake, Sydney & Perth are in the top 10 most expensive cities for.........PARKING! Sydney rated 6th and Perth 7th. I can understand this in places like London, New York etc due to the number of people living in congested these cities......but Perth??? The term "Rip-off" springs to mind!

:)

Fudd, i paid two weeks ago for 2,5 hours on the River side in Brisbane $ 73-00!!!!!!!I have lived in Moscow, Tokyo and travel through London, New York and never ever paid that much! Perth was nice surprise for $ 20-00 for 2 hours...
 

Anastacia

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It's about supply and demand. The demand skyrocketed during the mining boom.

The GFC came along and some people were caught out - banks repossessed their houses but the borrowers were dismayed that the selling price of the house was LOWER in value so they still had to repay a debt to make up for the deficit.
PS Just proves, prices will come down and how much only market will show?
 
C

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Yes, supply and demand, the THUMB rules or market. .There is plenty of LAND in Perth...Is it not enough builders to satisfy demand?

A vast, large part of that land is virtually uninhabitable though. And secondly, people have to get used to paying for smaller pieces of land that costs more e.g. townhouses. We pay an environmental price for all this building.

If anyone's young enough, think of the drive between Perth and Bunbury in the 80s and compare it to now - all that greenery has disappeared and replaced with concrete jungle.

How much longer can Australia, particularly Western Australia keep on carving up bush and then wondering why the water tastes funny, the weather has gone weird?
 
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One more thing - people have forgotten another basic. Entire generations of children were brought up in 3 bed, 1 bath houses and turned out JUST FINE.

Now people are spending like crazy for 4 beds, 2 baths, entertaiment room, 2 car parking blah blah blah. In other words, you create the expensive real estate.

Look at Saturday and Sunday's papers on new homes - you can't find a building plan for a 3 bed 1 bath anymore. If you did, you might find real estate is cheaper?
 

Anastacia

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A vast, large part of that land is virtually uninhabitable though. And secondly, people have to get used to paying for smaller pieces of land that costs more e.g. townhouses. We pay an environmental price for all this building.

If anyone's young enough, think of the drive between Perth and Bunbury in the 80s and compare it to now - all that greenery has disappeared and replaced with concrete jungle.

How much longer can Australia, particularly Western Australia keep on carving up bush and then wondering why the water tastes funny, the weather has gone weird?

PS Some of Western Australians already have moved to Bali, to escape from concrete jungle..-) Awesome lifestyle, live in Bali and work in Perth! I
 

Anastacia

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Look at Saturday and Sunday's papers on new homes - you can't find a building plan for a 3 bed 1 bath anymore. If you did, you might find real estate is cheaper?
PS Well, if i want downsize, 2 brm. unit close to CBD cost same price now.
 
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I've often entertained thoughts of buying block of land inner city or thereabouts and just putting a caravan park type home or kit home on it. If you look at the displays around, they're not bad at all. Remember, if you're going to live there for only 30 years, it'd be a great incentive for whoever buys it to tear down and build something to their liking.

And kit homes are FAR cheaper than bricks and mortar. I would draw the line at living in a "donga" though.
 
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Look at Saturday and Sunday's papers on new homes - you can't find a building plan for a 3 bed 1 bath anymore. If you did, you might find real estate is cheaper?
PS Well, if i want downsize, 2 brm. unit close to CBD cost same price now.

Same price but you save HEAPS in petrol costs, taxi fares. Moreso if you live near a railway line or bus route not to mention, good resale value or rental prospects. Many people still want to live close to the city without being inner city. Highgate, Vic Park are excellent examples.
 

Anastacia

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you get what you pay for,im happy with my little tin shed

I am not greedy, and live in the small 2 brm. unit. outside of WA and happy with it. I know foreign investors who ask my opinion on property investment in WA. My opinion, NO. Not now.
 

Anastacia

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I've often entertained thoughts of buying block of land inner city or thereabouts and just putting a caravan park type home or kit home on it. If you look at the displays around, they're not bad at all. Remember, if you're going to live there for only 30 years, it'd be a great incentive for whoever buys it to tear down and build something to their liking.

And kit homes are FAR cheaper than bricks and mortar. I would draw the line at living in a "donga" though.

Interesting idea.....
 

Drach

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Australia's rising property prices have been funded my rising incomes and money pouring into the country from China and other people investing in mining.
If China sours economically expect a sharp reduction in incomes, employment and housing prices.

Definitely. Once the mining construction peaks and goes into operations, there's a lot of construction jobs which are no longer there. People will either need to leave the country/state, accept different jobs (i.e. home building) or accept lower pay rates. There are already reports of people accepting a 25% pay cut to keep their job.
 
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Perth boy

I've often entertained thoughts of buying block of land inner city or thereabouts and just putting a caravan park type home or kit home on it. If you look at the displays around, they're not bad at all. Remember, if you're going to live there for only 30 years, it'd be a great incentive for whoever buys it to tear down and build something to their liking.

And kit homes are FAR cheaper than bricks and mortar. I would draw the line at living in a "donga" though.

Its funny you mention this Contrarian I to have the same thought. We are in need for cheap housing and what you say could work. What you could do is lease the land to house owner. They purchase the transportable building from you that you have had built in your factory in China or India. You make a margin on the Transportable and you lease the land to them on a 30 year lease. The advantage to the home owner is cheap living but in 30 years you still own the land.

We could build one of these on H2 and Farm boys farms. I have experience in China, Col can be the grounds man and HP can look after the eastern sea board and you can find the workers. BB can look after the monkey's 55
 
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Perth boy

You do realize I'm a punter with a bad reputation for work ethic.

Ye but being the grounds man you get to be around why all the guys are at work and the lady's are at home trying to make a few extra bucks.
 
C

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I have no links in any way to this website but thought I'd show it to you for a starting look. Bear in mind, building a home is one thing, you've got to allow money for things like council approval to sewage, pipeline works etc.
 
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bushseeker

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It's about supply and demand. The demand skyrocketed during the mining boom.

The GFC came along and some people were caught out - banks repossessed their houses but the borrowers were dismayed that the selling price of the house was LOWER in value so they still had to repay a debt to make up for the deficit.
PS Just proves, prices will come down and how much only market will show?

ayy??? that just didnt happen, during the GFC house prices actually ROSE and any look on a reiwa chart will confirm this
it wasnt until after the GFC prices fell marginally BUT this had a cronic effect on the rental market - all the talk was negative the usual walleys were saying house prices would drop 20% etc so the effect was no one invested in housing after the GFC people were pouring into WA and there was no investment housing so rents quickly spiralled. Soon it became cheaper to buy than rent and the lower end of the market suddenly went into boom mode.
with the current slowdown i expect this to ease BUT
same as everyone thinks a boom will never end and it does people think a slowdown will never end and house prices will crash 20%

neither is true - i expect house prices to ease marginally over the next 2 years and those that dont get on board because thier still waiting for the % drop will be caught with thier pants down like what happened after the GFC as the WA economy gos back into boom phase and rents once again rocket - by the time the walleys realise they should have bought they will be competing to buy houses with 5-10 offers on first home open

and once again they will, mumble about waiting till prices drop
 
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