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Onwithit said:
Can someone frikin tell me what the fk is PSE.???????????
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If you want my interpretation, which is the how the majority of the industry in sydney interprete:

gfe = girl friend experience, should include gentle to full on kissing, daty, you are silly, sex and or a combination of the above at the same time, ie 69.

pse = porn star experience, should include full on kissing, daty, fingering, rimming, daty, you are silly, cim, cof, anal (sometimes), 69, and basically anything goes (with consent).

in Perth and in particular in a lot of ads that claimto provide a gfe, but whats on offer are what i would call a basic service, light kissing without tongue or no kissing with some, brief cbj, daty and sex. Unsure why some of us would see a WL if we are only getting the basics.
 
OMG...Some W/L's actually do that?.
I mean. yeha, I watch Porn but I thought it was all planned and the participants are cleaned up, somehow. But a new client, in off the street.?

I guess, it's all to do with the look, If your a guy, lucky enough to look like a cutie pie, pretty boy, then most girls will do anything for you.

I was once told by a 23yo "former" dear, well educated, petite, Asian lady friend, where for some reason "scat " porn movies came up in a conversation, where I remarked it was really "Disgusting" but she said it depends on who it is & how they look.
I was infatuated but she did say that I was "Way" to old for her to contemplate a intimate relationship with me & I accepted that.
Except, one day, she confessed, in an Email, that when she was 20 she willingly had sex with a 48yo journalist mentor friend, in his flat in Perth but it was ok because they had been friends for a while. So what was I, a leg of roast lamb?
(btw, I'm now 52yo) I guess, I just did not have the look...
 
On with it,

If you ask my opinion, from a WL point of view.. I am someone who is big on respect and to me it is all about your attitude. If someone is being really nice and respectful to me, I would be willing to go the extra mile ( no natural though) for him as he makes me happy and it makes me enjoy spending my time with him.

Age is not the issue here because I have met some young ones who are respectful and some older ones who are just a complete 'shocker'.

Again, everyone's experience do varies.. maybe you just have not found the right one but I believe in if you want to bring out the best out of someone then treat them like how you would like to be treated and expect less because that is when you usually get more..

Hope this helps....

Love

Lillian
 
Hiya Lillian, I'm not sure what your trying to tell me but
I may come across as disrespectful but I do respect Ladies who primarily respect themselves.
Sometimes, I am little hurried and tend to get "On With It"..
It sort of comes as a shock to some of the few WL'S I've encountered
but after the initial act we always talk & talk.
I've always preferred a physical relationship first, simply because I feel it bonds me with people more closer, long term.

Platonic Man/woman relationships are a complete pointless waste of time designed to keep one or the other person as useful allies but completely non committed & kept at arms length.
 
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I'll speak for myself.

PSE seldomly means a session where ass fucking and face blowing while throwing her out the window with a giant turkey slap is involved. It's more the energy of bein fast and rough. It's the look in their eyes, it's the intensity of the breathing and screaming. Even then the physical limits are bound to the laws of YMMV. And that is a relationship developed between the two.

GFE is sensual, gentle is emotiotional. Eye contact, smiling, the right words, nurturing, cuddlng, etc. Again the physical acts are according to YMMV. Sometimes it's an act, sometimes it leads to attachments from both parties.

GFE and PSE are more connection and energy based, rather than a checklist of what limits we can get from a lady.


May the force me with you.
 
new to this kind of thing and hoping to meet some nice people
send me a pm if you would like to chat
 
Never ask a lady what she offers and doesn't offer.
Choose the right girl, go with the flow. Isn't it more interesting to gently push the boundary every time??
It takes time, effort, trust and a bit of money in most instances. Hence I tend to stick to my regulars, but do stray every now and then.
 
Married and ready Male

Hello all.
Married, discreet male looking for daytime encounters in the southern suburbs of SA.
Can visit and will satisfy all ladies first, then let me go.!

Don't be shy now.!
Matt
 
Henry B

Hi ladies and gents.

I'm an open minded 25 year old guy looking for naughty people for some fun in whatever form.

Looking forward to meeting some of you.
 
Re: Henry B

Hi Henry - welcome to the Forum - please post often so we can all share in your journey
 
Re: Married and ready Male

Hi Matt - welcome to the Forum - please post often so we can all share in your journey
 
Hey, Master Yoda,

Re: It's the look in their eyes, it's the intensity of the breathing and screaming.

Sound like you've had a few ladies & sort of reminds me of an interview I read in a magazine with Gene Simmons from KISS a few years ago. How do you get so many girls, your not paying for all of them, are you?

But anyhow Re: "It's the look in their eyes" bit. you actually have the time to do that.
I'm always to buggered to worry about that, so long as the screaming, moaning & the action is intense, what else matters.
But tell me more
 
Hi Onwithit

I love this topic. Learning about this is a passion of mine, and I'll share some of what I learned. Hope others can offer me some good stuff :)



Well there are a million and one techniques, lines, etc etc out there that enhance the pleasures we can give to a lady and have her smiling for more. *****But in all that stuff we all have our ways and are learning from each other.

The core of my most inner beliefs about associating with all people is summed up in a few words.

- Being Genuine
- Being Giving
- Being Intuitive

In the context of being in unison with the laws of YMMV with a lady in every kind of encounter, here are my thoughts. *****

I'll actually start with BEING GIVING. *****In all facets of whether business, pleasure, and all else. *****I have been living with a philosophy that has reaped me much rewards. *****GIVE WHAT THE OTHER WANTS, AND I WILL GET WHAT I WANT BY DEFAULT.

The most obvious one is to be well presented. *****I for one find no pleasure in a lady with a head full of dandruff, that stick to her moustache while her behind smells like shit. *****So I ensure that I am clean shaven, smell nice, and are well presented. *****That's a given for me.

Then in amongst all the tricks and skills we all have bits of, the intuition comes in. *****With some ladies I lay on the 'GAME' *****or the act really thick. *****To create an atmosphere we both like. ***** *****With some ladies, it's a total fantasy. *****With some it's more genuine.

Like my encounters with the original PSE Vivian, it was cheeky and dirty. *****And attitudes based on banter was what worked best. *****I could tell she liked that, so I joined with being a smart ass. *****She returned by zooming up the mileage. *****But all this is done in the context of fun and enjoyment.

With a cute Korean from DL called Cola. *****She is shy, so I put on a convincing game of being a pampering boyfriend as though we were teenagers. *****This made her comfortable and sweet and gave a real girlfriend experience. *****

When I met Lillian Tan. *****I picked up straight away that she is a straight shooter and has quite a fun and fiery persona. *****With her I played no games and chose no characters. *****I was into her and I was just as genuinely being myself. *****She appreciated that. *****A bond to what I still believe is genuine was created.

In doing this I have to believe as though whatever for the lack of a better word 'role' is real. *****Women have powerful intution and they can tell if it's an act. *****When that happens it kills the mood for them.*****

BEING GIVING. *****Is another attitude that generated a lot of great experiences for me. *****Instead of going in there demanding this that and the other sporting an attitude of a paying patron that deserves the fullest of service, I make it all about them. *****Yeah, I work out what they're into. *****Sometimes it takes a few visits. *****Then I service them to the best of what I have. *****A lot of the time it's the respect and appreciation they seek. *****But the sexual tricks that get them off helps immensely if they are into it.

Most if not all of the time the favour is returned long before the session is over. *****They tell me that they spend all day long with hairy, smelly, rude, and demanding guys that treat them like whores and demand natural sex and pounds the rice out of their booty for the entire session. *****It's nice for them to see guys that treat them nice and make them feel special.

So for me, what works is to be genuine, know what they like and give.







*****
 
you should write a book yoda.

LOL ...it'll probably sell like hotcakes given the number of dumbf**ks in this world.

n then u can use the profits to buy more ladies n impress them with ur fantastic sexual intuitions.... LOL ... i love this forum....
 
Hi there, I also cant pm just yet, but would love to chat more with you. Please email me at markmkb@hotmail.com. Will provide pics, and more info about myself on there. I'm a big fan of maslins so that might be a good place to try. Cheers.
 
This is something I've been thinking about for a while, I always shave to keep everything under control, but have been thinking about getting waxed......I guess the only thing stopping me is I'm a little shy, and having someone ripping my pubes out by the root that I don't know just puts me off.....So ladies and gentman is it worth it ??

Cheers

Scottie
 
Well guys, waxing definitely depends on your pain tolerance. I tried it for years, and fnally discovered than I just don't have the pain tolerance necessary, depilatory creams work only partially, ( and the love geography is way too sensitive for it). Shaving the whole area effectively requires time, patience, a Gillette Mach 3 razor AND a committment to shaving it every 3 days to avoid itchy, chafing hedgehog prickles. I think trimming the edges for a guy is enough. Guys looked like plucked chooks when they are totally shaved and IT DOESNT make the penis look bigger. Girls with a landing strip look good, or at least well trimmed edges. But pleasure button accessibility is key. Incidentally, we have pubic hair by nature to be a shock absorber for impact during sex... but i definitely don't favour the jungle look.
 
Either a nice bit of trimmed lawn always good, but not against shaven either. Just love to be there giving close examination

Yummmmmmmmie
 
If Indian ladies float your boat you would have enjoyed the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony. Some of those indian dancers and Yogis were knockouts.
 
I interviewed a very attractive Indian lady in Sydney recently that will shortly be visiting with us in Perth shortly.
 
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