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Did it bring happiness and something permanent? Or just something special for a season?
mountainbikingateve
Gold Member
Hey sixtysixty.
You can certainly meet and date working ladies, this includes some of the lovely Asian massage ladies as well.
Many ladies have partners and husbands, some (most I would say) will keep that too themselves as it doesn’t fit the “model” or acting punters want to see and experience.
Many WLs do not have significant others.
Plenty of posts and threads on here as to opinions and reasons for both options.
Are you interested in getting tips on how to date a WL or just interested in stories?
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Albany
mountainbikingateve
Gold Member
Ask her out on a date.
Date for a while and build up some trust. You met at RnT place.
DO your research - do you want a girlfriend that makes money from sucking other guys off...
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This is a great place to start.
Be honest with yourself. Can you deal with your own mind games and potential jealously?
Questions you’ll have will include; Is she getting serious with you for a Visa? Did she enjoy sex with that customer? Does she just want me for a retirement fund?
Do you have a desire to “save her”? She might not want saving (from her job).
How are going to introduce her to family? Does she want other people to know?
If you are just looking for Free sex with a WL .....this might be hard work.
If you think you have found that someone special, what she does is just a job. Ask her on a date.
Date for a while and build up some trust. You met at RnT place.
DO your research - do you want a girlfriend that makes money from sucking other guys off...
Link is broken it has been removed
This is a great place to start.
Be honest with yourself. Can you deal with your own mind games and potential jealously?
Questions you’ll have will include; Is she getting serious with you for a Visa? Did she enjoy sex with that customer? Does she just want me for a retirement fund?
Do you have a desire to “save her”? She might not want saving (from her job).
How are going to introduce her to family? Does she want other people to know?
If you are just looking for Free sex with a WL .....this might be hard work.
If you think you have found that someone special, what she does is just a job. Ask her on a date.
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Not dating. Do have a close relationship. Huge age difference. It’s exhilarating. Has put a spring in my step. Lots of laughs and sharing of stories. You know the saying, ‘And to each season, something is special’. Ultimately, impossible love! But for now, unexpected love. Living a story and also enjoy hearing them.
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Some clear headed thinking there Mountain!
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Hairybum
Gold Member
Very well put, I have been in the situation twice recently where I have built up rapport with different women that has progressed to very loving encounters. We are of similar ages both they and I are married. On my part my sex life fell apart after my wife got cancer twice in 6 years and then the meds brought on early menopause as well as low libido. It is not my wifes fault and we otherwise have a great relationship but physical intimacy is only hugging and kissing but even that not on the level previously.
I originally started getting massage for my back and legs and naturally being a tightarse sought out the best massage for the buck. I have always found Asian (Thai/Chinese) to be the best value. When I found someone good I became a regular. After that well, I'm sure like many of us, a relationship develops. Massage is an intimate therapy and I personally have felt very strong connections with some of the people that I have met. I had to stop seeing one of my favorites on her request because we no longer did any massage just jumped straight on each other and it was affecting her ability to manage the business.
Sometimes this has built to the point that major life changes were being considered on both sides. In both cases I realised that I was only a small (although valued) part of their lives. They had other customers that potentially they develop the same connection with.
This was hard to take but when I sat back and looked at the situation clearly I realised as Mountain has suggested, it was my own ego and mind games that was the problem. I was jealous with no right to be. Expecting them to only treat me as the special lover when I was only giving the a small part of myself. I have come to peace with it and still see both these women occasionally but I make no demands and just enjoy their company when I can. I am very thankful to both of them for helping me through some dark times. I know I have helped them as well but know that a full relationship would have got very messy. My advice is if you're single and you can manage your ego - go for it. If you are happy with the relationship as it is then happy days. Life is short and happiness is precious.
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A moving story. Sensitive and compassionate.
Melody
Bronze Member
Thanks so much for sharing your story and subsequent advice. xx
Hairybum
Gold Member
One thing I have learned over all that's happened (there is some more but don't feel like sharing that bit) over the last 10 years where my life has deviated from the expected trajectory is:
Never assume you know what someone has gone through. Everyone has their own particular brand of shit to deal with. Grab happiness when you can and don't hurt anyone in the process.
So very true. I am not sure I can ever explan what sort of hell I went through several years ago and am still recovering from. It has affected every aspect of my emotional and physical being.
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HEAR HEAR .. raise your tipple if cancer has affected your life/sex/happiness/energy/relationship ..
hUGE thanks to you HairyBum for sharing .. I have the inklng that we're not alone out here ..
and so another HUGE round of 'cheers' to all the WL's , in whatever form, that have helped us to survive ..
" ... On my part my sex life fell apart after my wife got cancer twice in 6 years and then the meds brought on early menopause as well as low libido. It is not my wifes fault and we otherwise have a great relationship but physical intimacy is only hugging and kissing but even that not on the level previously. "
hUGE thanks to you HairyBum for sharing .. I have the inklng that we're not alone out here ..
and so another HUGE round of 'cheers' to all the WL's , in whatever form, that have helped us to survive ..
" ... On my part my sex life fell apart after my wife got cancer twice in 6 years and then the meds brought on early menopause as well as low libido. It is not my wifes fault and we otherwise have a great relationship but physical intimacy is only hugging and kissing but even that not on the level previously. "
Bluegreen
Gold Member
Hairybum Thanks for sharing your story. I’m lucky that we haven’t had those health challenges in our family but still my marriage has changed in the last 10 years where we love and respect each other but there is no touching, sex or tenderness anymore. And it hurt so much to lose it.
The touch and closeness I get from private ladies, AMPs and WLs keeps me sane. But I get torn between guilt and desire for sex.
Yes I ve felt a real connection with a couple of ladies but I had to stop seeing one lady that I really enjoyed seeing because I went too far one day.
Life is never clear cut. And I’ve been thinking about her again recently.
The touch and closeness I get from private ladies, AMPs and WLs keeps me sane. But I get torn between guilt and desire for sex.
Yes I ve felt a real connection with a couple of ladies but I had to stop seeing one lady that I really enjoyed seeing because I went too far one day.
Life is never clear cut. And I’ve been thinking about her again recently.
Hairybum
Gold Member
No dramas, yep, the old guilt vs desire is a right bastard. I ended up seeing a psych for a little while just to unload. Some things you need to process that you just aren't ready to go into with your other half so it's good to bounce your thoughts off a professional.
mountainbikingateve
Gold Member
Thanks Hairy for the posts. Well written and deeply revealing about your private life and circumstances.
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Drinkwater
Hate to put a dampener on the thread but if you go down this track you should be very, very careful.
Not all ladies in this situation have good intentions. I have a close friend who is currently struggling after being played by someone he thought was a lot different than what she turned out to be. Luckily he lives a lot frugal than that what he actually is and she started ghosted him before she knew how much he really had. He is very lucky at the timing because he was planning on buying jewelry and even first class flights to London for her.
He was just too nice and niave for his own good after being alone for awhile which is probably why she targeted him. It all ended with him being taken to wellness camp for a breakdown 10 days ago.
So be careful you both have the right intentions if you decide to do this. I'm sure this isn't the only example.
Not all ladies in this situation have good intentions. I have a close friend who is currently struggling after being played by someone he thought was a lot different than what she turned out to be. Luckily he lives a lot frugal than that what he actually is and she started ghosted him before she knew how much he really had. He is very lucky at the timing because he was planning on buying jewelry and even first class flights to London for her.
He was just too nice and niave for his own good after being alone for awhile which is probably why she targeted him. It all ended with him being taken to wellness camp for a breakdown 10 days ago.
So be careful you both have the right intentions if you decide to do this. I'm sure this isn't the only example.
Hairybum
Gold Member
Yep, good point Drinkwater even if no financial shenanigans then the emotional impact can be pretty fully on. Hope your mate recovers well.
mountainbikingateve
Gold Member
Great expansion on my little question of “is she using you as a retirement fund?”. I hope your friend is ok and it’s never nice to be or see a close mate in this situation.
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Drinkwater
Yes. It's still a bit raw because this guy is a good guy who has had no luck in love so doesn't deserve this. I really want to go full blast on this lady as well because she has a bit of a good innocent reputation but from what I can gather she has a bit if a trail destruction. Only reason I'm not is he has asked me to leave it. He just wants to move on, I hope he's not protecting her because he still thinking they're a chance.
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I think your final words hit the nail on the head. Be careful you both have the right intentions! Advice for both parties.
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Drinkwater
I have always erred on the side of it's too good to be true. Remember you are enjoying their company for 30 min, an hour or an evening and it's a transaction. Not real life. Enjoy this moment and look forward to the next.
Don't get caught in the trap like my friend. Spoke with his niece last night (he's back in treatment) and she showed me some stuff she said to him that should have set off red flags. A bit suspicious when she says they are so close but it was always through the work number.
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Our hearts can be so strong and yet so fragile. Here’s hoping he will find heal
business is business. Damn, it does take the edge off it! Yes it is too good to be true, but for the moment the sun’s not setting and it’s fun!
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Drinkwater
For those that were wondering, my friend is due home this weekend. Not fully healed but ok. Done with punting or even putting himself out there for a long time but at least he is still with us.
Also judging by messages sent to me by a some punters it looks like the lady in question has not only joined us on this forum a couple weeks ago but has moved on to her next target. So be careful you two. Make sure you take a step back and are not the one being played by her this time. You will not be her special client, the only one she kisses and offers extras to!
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georgo
Gold Member
Similar story here got very close to WL for a long while only to realize things were not what they should be, lucky I ended it when I did cost lots of dollars . Getting over being used and the brain and heart are recovering??
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Sorry to hear that. I hope good things come your way soon.
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So confident a couple of weeks ago. The mood seems to be changing. Trips South of the River look like becoming a thing of the past. The season may be passing.
mountainbikingateve
Gold Member
That’s a shame, it sounds like it was a great time for you.
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It was. Still friendly but over.
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Slowly sinking in.