Boundaries

[AmeliaKennedy]

Happy Thursday everyone

So one thing I do have on my mind today...

I usually get SMS around natural sex etc which under no circumstances do I offer, one gentleman in particular messages all the time advises money is no problem but he wants bare back I now ignore his messages because I am done saying no and having to justify my choices.

Fast forward to last night I had another message from said gentleman, this time its around punter planet.. apparently people want to know what I'm like on there, and if I see him he will do a review on me, I ignored the message because again its not an option hes already boundary pushed and not listened to me over and over and I don't want to see him especially if he's doing natural sex with others its not worth my health BUT I now fear hes going to do a negative review even though he hasn't seen me just to lie and upset me because I am ignoring him.

It made me think.. how many reviews are fake just because the guy doesn't like the girl? Or how many times does a girl feel under pressure to do something she's not comfortable with because she doesn't want her name tarnished?

So I have blocked the gentleman so I don't recieve anymore contact and I will risk the negative feedback on me but I just wondered if its something others have come across and how you handled it?

 

[CraigieBoi]

Most forums I know including pp you have the right to reply and challenge the review.

 

[Bigmick]

Happy Thursday everyone

So one thing I do have on my mind today...

I usually get SMS around natural sex etc which under no circumstances do I offer, one gentleman in particular messages all the time advises money is no problem but he wants bare back I now ignore his messages because I am done saying no and having to justify my choices.

Fast forward to last night I had another message from said gentleman, this time its around punter planet.. apparently people want to know what I'm like on there, and if I see him he will do a review on me, I ignored the message because again its not an option hes already boundary pushed and not listened to me over and over and I don't want to see him especially if he's doing natural sex with others its not worth my health BUT I now fear hes going to do a negative review even though he hasn't seen me just to lie and upset me because I am ignoring him.

It made me think.. how many reviews are fake just because the guy doesn't like the girl? Or how many times does a girl feel under pressure to do something she's not comfortable with because she doesn't want her name tarnished?

So I have blocked the gentleman so I don't recieve anymore contact and I will risk the negative feedback on me but I just wondered if its something others have come across and how you handled it?

As a punter I say it like it is on here. If they are great I say why that is so. If it was bad it's usually because it was a bait and switch or the WL had no interest and was a Total waste of time. I certainly don't review everyone though so as to keep a couple of gems to myself.
I would never review someone because of a threat of not getting what I want from them.
Though sadly that is where our society is headed. We now hear all the time people rocking up to restaurants demanding a free meal or discount otherwise they will post a bad review and send them out of business.
At least here you can keep an eye on your reviews and as far as I'm away the site has a reporting posts function and is managed by moderators.

 

[CraigieBoi]

Also all reviews I look at in context and compare to others. A review also says something about the reviewer. Some of the reviews says the guy either chose the wrong girl (they are not suited to each other) or something else about him.
When I look at reviews I also look at who is writing the review and do I trust this reviewer.

 

[AmeliaKennedy]

Thanks for the replies, I'm willing to roll with the punches so to speak and deal with it if it happens but i can imagine this could really concern someone and push them into things like you said it's very much the same in restaurants!!

 

[sircurious]

In regards to reviews, I read them with an open mind - some you can tell are fake (either from the client or the girl), client posting negative feedback because the girl didn't give them what they want and the girl posting fake reviews so they can be at the top of list (like Locanto). Unfortunately we live in a digital world and everything gets reviewed on in some forum or website. I have over 25 years experience in the tourism/hospitality industry and one of the last hotels I worked at - the General Manager requested staff to post 'fake' positive reviews on TripAdvisor. So Amelia, I wouldn't worry about it too much - it looks like you have regulars who enjoy your company and that's more important than one desperate individual who doesn't understand the word 'NO'.

 

[AmeliaKennedy]

I guess it would happen the other way around too girls flagging clients numbers for no reason and then clients wondering why they are being ignored.

Damn... you don't realise the politics behind sex

 

[Deleted member 49173]

.. chill .. reviews are just opinions 'in print' here .. light on facts and subjectivity .. IMO ..

 

[PeterParker1969]

I think reviews should be viewed collectively to get a balanced view. I always find it off when there are a lot of positives and one negative. Personally I think this is a way better forum than PP. i think there are some angry men on PP that like the anonymity. Having read your posts Amelia I wouldn’t need to read a review to know you would be worth seeing, .., which I haven’t yet ..

 

[HappyPirate]

Reviews can be very helpful and can increase your popularity and hence your earing capacity, but, it is a double sided sword, reviews can be used as a weapon against a particular person.
With a review you can use it power to try and blackmail a person or hurt and reduce their capacity to earn money.
Finally my view of PP, for people who do not know this organisation they may think it is good idea, but, PP is the corrupt and BAD organisation, the best thing is not to have anything to do with them.
Cheers and Pass the Rum

 

[CraigieBoi]

@Happy Pirate Some guys are nasty to newbies and other punters on pp. Plus the fees. I find this place better than pp. I like that girls interact here more so it is nice to hear them.
A guy like me who likes the more pricey girls (better chance of getting a booking, they see less clients, more energeti etc) gets attacked on pp. However I have a lot of intel. PP drives away some of its business.
You would not like your boss/employer saying I am going to pay you less because I can't afford u. So everyone is entitled to go for jobs that make them happy including higher pay. So I have no problem with SW prices.

 

[sabredog]

With a review you can use it power to try and blackmail a person or hurt and reduce their capacity to earn money.

Cheers and Pass the Rum

False reviews and comments are extraordinarily damaging to a WL's business and character. I had a WL friend call me almost in tears recently over demands from punters she perform FS when she clearly does not and has not, all generated by comments here. She has blocked dozens of "demanders".

Kraken is my preference. Does that suit?

 

[CraigieBoi]

I just remembered a past girl. She visited me. I could tell she was nervous. We sat & talked. I offered her a drink. She had lots of horror stories of guys and boundaries. Some just grabbed her arm and went straight to the bedroom saying come on. Wives coming home unexpectedly. She pushed naked into the cupboard and told to hide and keep quiet. She would not take off her shoes because of past experiences. I tried to make her feel comfortable with me. Afterwards she kissed me and said I was the best guy she had seen. I wished I had given her my mobile number. I wanted to see her again. She left the industry.

 

[baal6007]

A negative review on PP isn't the end of the world. People know what some of the folks are like on there and take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Numpty]

Happy Thursday everyone

So one thing I do have on my mind today...

I usually get SMS around natural sex etc which under no circumstances do I offer, one gentleman in particular messages all the time advises money is no problem but he wants bare back I now ignore his messages because I am done saying no and having to justify my choices.

Fast forward to last night I had another message from said gentleman, this time its around punter planet.. apparently people want to know what I'm like on there, and if I see him he will do a review on me, I ignored the message because again its not an option hes already boundary pushed and not listened to me over and over and I don't want to see him especially if he's doing natural sex with others its not worth my health BUT I now fear hes going to do a negative review even though he hasn't seen me just to lie and upset me because I am ignoring him.

It made me think.. how many reviews are fake just because the guy doesn't like the girl? Or how many times does a girl feel under pressure to do something she's not comfortable with because she doesn't want her name tarnished?

So I have blocked the gentleman so I don't recieve anymore contact and I will risk the negative feedback on me but I just wondered if its something others have come across and how you handled it?

Extortion by social media.
All to common these days, perhaps pre-empt him by posting on pp discussion thread? Or starting one?

 

[MikeB]

Extortion by social media.
All to common these days, perhaps pre-empt him by posting on pp discussion thread? Or starting one?

Extortion - so true have heard similar from a number of girls and seems to be on the increase recently.

Some even refer to this forum as Stalkinsex given the nature of some who try to use the review here as an extortion tool, either to see a girl who would otherwise not agree to see them or get a service beyond the menu. hopefully the moderators are up to the task to spot them???

some have even indicated “punters” are using facial recognition from ads to track down girls personal info from personal social media!! Scary stuff, and we wonder why some girl chose to use “indicative likeness” photos that punters see as bait & switch or fakes!

 

[sabredog]

Extortion - so true have heard similar from a number of girls and seems to be on the increase recently.

Some even refer to this forum as Stalkinsex given the nature of some who try to use the review here as an extortion tool, either to see a girl who would otherwise not agree to see them or get a service beyond the menu. hopefully the moderators are up to the task to spot them???

Indeed. This has been discussed here before. Pretty low.

 

[Melody]

Extortion - so true have heard similar from a number of girls and seems to be on the increase recently.

Some even refer to this forum as Stalkinsex given the nature of some who try to use the review here as an extortion tool, either to see a girl who would otherwise not agree to see them or get a service beyond the menu. hopefully the moderators are up to the task to spot them???

some have even indicated “punters” are using facial recognition from ads to track down girls personal info from personal social media!! Scary stuff, and we wonder why some girl chose to use “indicative likeness” photos that punters see as bait & switch or fakes!

That is disgusting and not at all inline with the reason this forum exists.

Please feel free to report anyone you ever hear doing this.

 

[sabredog]

I will add that there is a practice of some forum members here going to ladies who are only advertising massages on Gumtree to see what can be obtained beyond what is advertised. Then “reviewing” on forum the lady they saw and listing what they achieved. This results in that lady being flooded with massage requests with the expectation of extras.

 

[Melody]

I will add that there is a practice of some forum members here going to ladies who are only advertising massages on Gumtree to see what can be obtained beyond what is advertised. Then “reviewing” on forum the lady they saw and listing what they achieved. This results in that lady being flooded with massage requests with the expectation of extras.

Disgusting.

Thanks for sharing. I'll let the other staff to keep a closer eye on the private forums. Do not want to encourage this behaviuor at all.

 

[Deleted member 49173]

I will add that there is a practice of some forum members here going to ladies who are only advertising massages on Gumtree to see what can be obtained beyond what is advertised. Then “reviewing” on forum the lady they saw and listing what they achieved. This results in that lady being flooded with massage requests with the expectation of extras.

WOW & OMG

 

[Georgia Sharp]

It made me think.. how many reviews are fake just because the guy doesn't like the girl? Or how many times does a girl feel under pressure to do something she's not comfortable with because she doesn't want her name tarnished?

Good questions Amelia.... I replied to a review recently, thankfully I easily remembered him and it was pure luck I had screen shots to discredit many things he had claimed.

But such a valid point you make - Absolutely I have felt pressure to kiss properly even clients with really really bad breath (even after brushing and mouth wash)... How would that client review my DFK? Or when you simply don't gel with someone because how they treat women in their culture is vastly different to how you expect to be treated? What if you simply don't connect as well as you'd have liked to? for whatever reason?

In my situation, the unfavourable review prompted clients I'd seen to see me again. And for 2 new clients to see me... But something ELSE happened in one of those bookings... EG. A forum client CIM without warning (which I do not provide as a SW) and I obviously spat and spluttered, and warned him to not do that again. As the booking progressed I don't believe he did it on purpose - he did seem sweet and genuine and I think was just super sensitive/ nervous/ prem.

But since I had received a negative review from a client who played nice after... it did create apprehension around what the client may post.

#foodforthought

 

[Georgia Sharp]

I certainly don't review everyone though so as to keep a couple of gems to myself.

Wait, what?

 

[TantraShiva]

Extortion - so true have heard similar from a number of girls and seems to be on the increase recently.

Some even refer to this forum as Stalkinsex given the nature of some who try to use the review here as an extortion tool, either to see a girl who would otherwise not agree to see them or get a service beyond the menu. hopefully the moderators are up to the task to spot them???

some have even indicated “punters” are using facial recognition from ads to track down girls personal info from personal social media!! Scary stuff, and we wonder why some girl chose to use “indicative likeness” photos that punters see as bait & switch or fakes!

That really isnt on. Whats wrong with some guys.

 

[Deleted member 49173]

Wait, what?
[/QUOTE]
to re-state Bigmick .." there's a few/couple of WL that I dont review .. I keep some gems to myself " .. this is an ALL-TELLING statement ( especially its from a guy who claims 'he tells it as it is' .. ) that everyone needs to be clear about - half truths , at best, get spilled out here.
The real gems are kept quietly in the cupboards of discretion. A wise, but biased, review technique .. who ? me ? never .. lol

 

[Tania Admin]

It's unfortunate that there are clients like that. I always keep my eye out for fake reviews, good and bad. There are a few profiles who drum their own business as such. I do occasionally receive a pm about a non genuine review (good or bad) and most definitely look into it. I even go as far as checking reviews on other sites.
Then we have members who bully others because they don't agree with their review or have an agenda for Brownie points with a lady or business.
Sadly we can't always stop it and need to remind ourselves that the majority are good people and do the right thing.

I agree that sometimes ladies will feel pushed or cornered into something they might not really want to do. Generally these type of clients are looking for fresh to the industry, young or vulnerable ladies. They are criminals in their own right and when we can advise ladies that they NEVER have to do anything in a booking they don't want to.

Just keep offering the same genuine, healthy and great service that I have read about you and don't sweat the nasty people.

If you ever have any issues please do not hesitate to send me a pm.

 

[AmeliaKennedy]

Good questions Amelia.... I replied to a review recently, thankfully I easily remembered him and it was pure luck I had screen shots to discredit many things he had claimed.

But such a valid point you make - Absolutely I have felt pressure to kiss properly even clients with really really bad breath (even after brushing and mouth wash)... How would that client review my DFK? Or when you simply don't gel with someone because how they treat women in their culture is vastly different to how you expect to be treated? What if you simply don't connect as well as you'd have liked to? for whatever reason?

In my situation, the unfavourable review prompted clients I'd seen to see me again. And for 2 new clients to see me... But something ELSE happened in one of those bookings... EG. A forum client CIM without warning (which I do not provide as a SW) and I obviously spat and spluttered, and warned him to not do that again. As the booking progressed I don't believe he did it on purpose - he did seem sweet and genuine and I think was just super sensitive/ nervous/ prem.

But since I had received a negative review from a client who played nice after... it did create apprehension around what the client may post.

#foodforthought
[/QUOTE]


I'm sorry that happened to you & I hope it hasn't caused any harm for your brand!

I'm glad you understand what I mean by the post it's nice to hear someone else can relate, although it sucks that it is happening!

It was the fact he used punter planet as his reasoning to see me after he had persued natural sex the whole time and knew I wouldn't see him! I was willing to risk the brand damage because he's disgusting and pushy and I am not touching someone who I know is going to mess around with the condom but it's so frustrating!

I have since done investigating and know his username etc so if a review was to pop up, like you I have enough evidence to knock it down.

Xx

 

[L..2ta]

Hi

 

[Slugger1]

I'm sorry that happened to you & I hope it hasn't caused any harm for your brand!

I'm glad you understand what I mean by the post it's nice to hear someone else can relate, although it sucks that it is happening!

It was the fact he used punter planet as his reasoning to see me after he had persued natural sex the whole time and knew I wouldn't see him! I was willing to risk the brand damage because he's disgusting and pushy and I am not touching someone who I know is going to mess around with the condom but it's so frustrating!

I have since done investigating and know his username etc so if a review was to pop up, like you I have enough evidence to knock it down.

Xx

Messing around with a condom is criminal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-consensual_condom_removal

 

[Cardinal Voiello]

I guess it would happen the other way around too girls flagging clients numbers for no reason and then clients wondering why they are being ignored.

Damn... you don't realise the politics behind sex

Wait, what?
[/QUOTE]

Yes, I am keeping a few gems for myself as in my short time on this esteemed forum, I have found some posts to be a trifle made up with some posters beign in need of confession..