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Having worked in legal circles (and still do) I'd be hard pushed to undertake this man as a client. What would you do?

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Release hearing for school killer
Amanda Banks and Christiana Jones, The West Australian
Updated August 31, 2013, 2:01 am
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Release hearing for school killer
Killed in class: Vicky Groves
The murderer who stabbed schoolgirl Vicky Groves to death in front of classmates when he was a teenager almost 22 years ago could be released with authorities about to review his life sentence.

The man, who cannot be identified and is now in his late 30s, was 15 when he stabbed his former girlfriend 18 times with a 35cm hunting knife in a classroom at Churchlands Senior High School.

He was given a minimum term of 12 years after pleading guilty in the Children's Court in 1992 to wilful murder.

The Prisoners Review Board confirmed that under sentencing laws, a review of his life jail term and his suitability for parole was due this week.

The board is drafting a report on the review to go to Attorney-General Michael Mischin, who has the final decision on the status of the man's sentence.

He could be released on parole with conditions or kept in jail to continue his sentence.

In 2002, the parole board recommended the man be approved for an 18-month program of graduated releases in preparation for full parole.

But then attorney-general Jim McGinty rejected the recommendation, saying he would not consider any release until the man served his full minimum term of 12 years in 2004.

There have been many other recommendations for the man to enter pre-release programs, all of which the State Government rejected.

In recent years, the murderer has represented himself in numerous legal cases against the parole board and State Government.

In May 2010, he won a ruling that he was entitled to be given reasons for the board's recommendation against his release on parole and his participation in a re-socialisation program.

Later that year, the Court of Appeal ruled the parole board was using the wrong legislation to review his life sentence, prompting an audit of about 35 other serious offenders.

The parole board is required to provide its latest review to Mr Mischin as soon as practicable after the review date.
 
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Groves killer's dad wants son freed
GABRIELLE KNOWLES and GARY ADSHEAD EXCLUSIVE, The West Australian
Updated March 27, 2010, 2:45 am
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A police photograph shows how Vicky Groves' murderer hid the knife.
unknown © A police photograph shows how Vicky Groves' murderer hid the knife.
Almost two decades after the classroom stabbing murder of teenager Vicky Groves, her killer's father has ended his silence and called on the State Government to release his son from prison.

The father said that his son, now 34, was not the "monster" he had been portrayed as, that he spoke regularly to him in jail and was convinced he posed no danger to anyone.

"I feel he has served his time," he said this week. "He wasn't a monster; he was a nice kid who didn't know how to cope."

But Vicky's father, Ken Groves, countered the plea for mercy by arguing that the murderer remained cold and calculating. He revealed he once received a letter from his daughter's killer written in red ink.

Neither the killer nor his father can be named for legal reasons.

The 1991 murder of 16-year-old Vicky at Churchlands Senior High School stunned the community, including the investigating police.

For the first time, details of the killer's interview with detectives, in which he described why and how he carried out the murder, is published in _The West Australian _today.

"It's been on my mind to kill her," he told police in 1991. "I hadn't made up my mind to do it today, it just happened."

Vicky's murderer arrived at the high school on November 6 with a large hunting knife slipped inside a sheath, which had been strapped to his back under his shirt.

In the morning, the killer calmly stood up from his desk, closed the classroom door, walked over to his girlfriend and repeatedly stabbed her as students fled in horror.

Then aged 15, he pleaded guilty to wilful murder, although he claimed that when he committed the crime that he felt like he was "dreaming" and "unconscious to my mind".

In 1992, he was sentenced to life behind bars with a minimum of 12 years, which could have resulted in his release in 2004. But the current and previous State governments and the Prisoners Review Board have thwarted his applications for parole.

"As a father of three girls, I can understand why Vicky's father never wants him released," the killer's father said. But he supported his son, who told a 2005 court hearing that he planned to live near his father and other loved ones if granted parole.

"Violence was not in his nature and it was completely out of character," the father said. "I believe that, just like it was described, it was a crime of passion. He was 15 and in love with Vicky and when he found out she had another boyfriend it sent him over the edge."

For months, the killer's father wrestled with the reasons behind the crime. He kept asking his son why.

"All he said was that he didn't know and he felt like he was watching himself from on high," the man said.

Vicky's father said the killer's refusal to show remorse for his crime or acceptance that he plotted the murder created doubts over his suitability for release.

The killer has launched civil action in the Supreme Court in a new bid to secure his freedom. His parole is not due to be reviewed again until 2012.
 
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Murdered girl's father quits WA
GARY ADSHEAD, The West Australian
Updated August 11, 2010, 2:45 am
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Ken Groves, the father of murdered schoolgirl Vicky Groves.
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The father of a Churchlands schoolgirl stabbed to death with a hunting knife in the classroom by a jealous former boyfriend has moved out of WA to "start again" - 19 years after the murder.

Ken Groves said he needed to escape WA and the constant reminders about the day his 16-year-old daughter Vicky, his only child, was killed in a frenzied attack in front of her classmates.

His decision to sell up and go coincides with legal action his daughter's killer is taking against Mr Groves and The West Australian over articles published in March, which revealed new details about the 1991 murder.

The murderer alleges the information was suppressed in 1992.

"It keeps coming up in different ways every year and I just need to get away," Mr Groves said. "It makes it very hard to get on with life."

Now 34, the murderer, who is not named because he was 15 at the time, has used an application to the Children's Court to accuse Mr Groves of providing the newspaper with suppressed evidence in the case, which Mr Groves has denied.

In an affidavit, the murderer said some of the material published is "false, misleading and scaremongering". He said it had contributed to the Prisoners Review Board's view that he posed an "unacceptably high" risk to the community and should not be released after nearly 20 years behind bars.

"The Attorney-General and his predecessors and recently the Prisoners Review Board, dine out on the fruits of this poisoned tree," the murderer wrote in April.

One of the police officers who interviewed the killer after he stabbed Vicky 18 times at Churchlands Senior High said he was not surprised by Mr Groves' decision.

"It's been his worst nightmare," former detective Michael Conchie said. "It keeps recurring and he lives it every day. To lose your only daughter in such horrific circumstances and then all the fallout from that makes it very hard."

The murderer brought the knife to school strapped under his shirt.

Mr Conchie said he had seen Mr Groves becoming more withdrawn over the years and wished him well.

In March, the murderer's father called for his son's release, arguing he was not a monster and had committed a crime of passion because he didn't know how to cope.

The court will rule on the murderer's application against The West Australian and Mr Groves in October.
 
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The fact that someone was capable of planning then carrying out the stabbing a school girl to death at any time in their life with a knife that size attached to their back has given up the right to "have another go" at being let loose in society. Why should other women have to wear the risk of someone like that giving their assurances that they will behave properly now? and he didn't just stab her once and think oh gosh, he stabbed her 18 times, someone like that has a life long problem.

Also, how will he relate to women after so long? How can the parole board be sure that he'll deal with his anger when relating to women again in an appropriate way if he's not been near a woman since he was 15 let alone in a relationship with one. This is nuts, there's enough crazy men out there with bad attitudes to women without letting this guy loose.
 
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The Groves family were given a life sentence that will never end. Even at 15 this person gave up any rights. Never ever let him out.
 
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I learnt a very long time ago that the media portrays stories in a way to shock its readers and can create mayhem.
I could not offer an opinion unless I was privy to all information and I don't believe the media ever gives an honest account of all the information. I think everyone should ask themselves. What were you like at 15? Are you that same person now?
 
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