Using dams?

[leah.]

Iv recently started using dams but I have found most of my clients aren't keen on using them.. whats everyone elses opinion on using them? Shouldn't it be safety first. We use condoms when we give you oral so why would it be any different on us.

 

[cherrygirl]

Do what you're comfortable with. And if clients don't respect that then they don't respect you and they're idiots.

 

[svengali]

This is a very interesting point and one I have often wondered about.

When I am with a W.L. I will usually want to go down on her and in quite a few years I have never been offered a dam nor have I requested one. Being health conscious I have only ever been to reputable houses or privates where it is a given that the girls are clean and the risks are low.

The thinking seems to be that she won't offer me natural French because she doesn't know where my "member" has been. On the other hand she knows that she has always taken proper precautions with all her clients so the risk of me catching or giving her anything nasty is minimal.

Certainly, if I was asked to use a dam I would but I am sure that it would not be nearly as pleasurable for me, or, probably for her.

 

[Rochelle]

To be honest.....I don't use dams but I have a proper look at the guys who wishes to go down on me. I love/enjoy a good tongue lashing big time and there is nothing better when the guy knows how to do it. If I should have any doubts about the guy's health I would take the necessary steps.
However if you don't feel comfortable doing it without dam then DON'T do it.
R.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[leah.]

But really, u can never tell, u can't judge if someone has an std by the way they look because you just can never tell and midway through intercourse when they decide they want to go down on u your not going to do a quick mouth check.
I know what you mean, it's not the same going down on us with damns as it's not the same for us but at the the end of the day health should be most important and when we'v slept with between 1 to 6 other people before u who know, could have had a condom break anything is possible. Just wanted to see if other girls use them or if punters have come across them often.

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

I don't use dams for DATY either, but I have them available should a client request one. In my few years of working, I have never contracted anything, however the official stance is that there is a small risk of herpes, and a couple of other STI's from the practise of DATY. But the same goes for kissing, so ...

My personal thoughts on the matter are that it is really dependent on the working girls own personal hygiene. You can't always tell by checking a client out whether they have an STI, for instance, the latest stats reckon that herpes can be passed on 3 days before the blisters appear. However, I am not prepared to take DATY and DFK out of my services, and since I have never contracted anything, I am happy with that.

 

[cherrygirl]

In saying all of this. Dental dams were obviously invented for a reason. But no one seems to pay attention to using them. I remember sex ed in school we passed packets of dental dams around the room and I thought they were only for lesbians lol.

In some states of Australia it is illegal for vaginal/anal cunninglus without the use of a dam.

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

I think dams were invented for use in the practise of "rimming."

 

[chook]

I would never see a W/L who doesn't offer daty, and I always respect her right not to do so but would never use a dam, it defeats the purpose. Sure there are small risks, and you do need to use judgement on clients, but you are more likely to be maimed in a car accident on your way to work - does that mean you stop driving? I really do think there is a small proprtion of W/Ls and clients that shouldn't be in the sex industry, nothing personal but if squeemish about diseases from kissing, daty etc your'e in the wrong game.

 

[cherrygirl]

It would seem some guys have a bit of a fetish for daty. Some girls and some guys just aren't into it so much and would prefer proper sex. I think there is plenty of work for ladies who won't offer kissing or daty and you can't say they're in the wrong industry... Plenty of couples/partners don't even practise daty.

And since when did it become so popular anyway? Is that a result of porn? Like some guys CAN'T get off without it.

 

[michael21]

It would seem some guys have a bit of a fetish for daty. Some girls and some guys just aren't into it so much and would prefer proper sex. I think there is plenty of work for ladies who won't offer kissing or daty and you can't say they're in the wrong industry... Plenty of couples/partners don't even practise daty.

And since when did it become so popular anyway? Is that a result of porn? Like some guys CAN'T get off without it.

I dont want shoot u down in flames. DATY has been around longer that you have.Guys like to do it as part of having sex as do some women like sucking cock.You may be generaling just a bit by saying some couples dont do it,have done a survey?no.each to ther own is more the point with ALL the above.
Girls will get through the industry without doing it as well,because some guys just like to fuck!

 

[cherrygirl]

I wasn't generalising at all. I'm sure there are some couples who don't. Or atleast not every single time you have sex. It is wrong to say someone is in the wrong industry because they won't provide these certain extras. Pretty Woman was on tv lastnight and 'Vivian' doesn't kiss her clientele.

 

[michael21]

I wasn't generalising at all. I'm sure there are some couples who don't. Or atleast not every single time you have sex. It is wrong to say someone is in the wrong industry because they won't provide these certain extras. Pretty Woman was on tv lastnight and 'Vivian' doesn't kiss her clientele.

Of course they will get along in the industry without daty/kissing that goes without saying and has done for yrs and will continue to do so,each to there own when it comes to that with W/Ls.

But most Guys will like to lick pussy its something we like to do and hope sometimes the girl likes it as well and gets off on it,we will never no unless we try.

Pretty Women was ONLY a movie and not real and a bit like Porn what is not real.

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

My personal experience is that if the guys want a boring shag, they will stay home and shag the Mrs. They don't want to have to pay someone who is like "don't do this," "don't do that," and I am afraid that they do think the girls who won't DATY without a dam, or kiss ARE boring and uptight. To me, using dams is for rimming, not for DATY. Which is not to say that I feel the same about condom use, it is mandatory.

 

[michael21]

My personal experience is that if the guys want a boring shag, they will stay home and shag the Mrs. They don't want to have to pay someone who is like "don't do this," "don't do that," and I am afraid that they do think the girls who won't DATY without a dam, or kiss ARE boring and uptight. To me, using dams is for rimming, not for DATY. Which is not to say that I feel the same about condom use, it is mandatory.

I will have to agree with you Alecia.

A good W/L will let you have some fun but a REALLY good W/L let u have daty/kissing all incl and they will enjoy it as well or a least fake it at the time.
That is the difference.
Enough said on this subject.

 

[retrowolf]

To me, using dams is for rimming, not for DATY. Which is not to say that I feel the same about condom use, it is mandatory.

This post confuses me. I really struggle to see the difference between Felatio and Cunilingus as far as the likleyhood of spreading an STI around is concerned. Mouth to genetal contact is risky either way (only takes a small cut from flossing to leave an almost invisible open wound is someone's mouth).

If you are ok with receiving, I can't understand why you are not ok to give, and vice versa, if you don't want to give, I don't understand why you would be prepared to receive. Makes me wonder if it comes down to a sensation thing, which further leads me to ask "who's paying?"

Just my opinion of course, don't mean to cause any offence.

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

No offence taken.

Not using condoms is a totally different thing.

Guys have a larger amount of ejaculatory fluid than women, and I don't want to have some strange guys' cum in my mouth or vagina. If the guys want to DATY me without a dam, that is their choice, and as I have stated in a previous post, I have never caught anything. I do have dams available, and I did use one once years ago when the bi double partner I had at the time insisted that we use them. But otherwise, it is their choice to DATY without, and my choice to blow with.

 

[leah.]

Each to their own if your willing to take that 'small' risk and live with herpes for the rest of your life then so be it. It's never happened to me is a ridiculous quote. Fair enough but just because you have been lucky for 3 yrs doesn't mean you are now immune to std's as is everyone else.

It just depends on the client and the day I'm having to if I choose to do DATY with a client with or without a dam. I don't really think it's any different to giving him oral unprotected so if I'm doing DATY might as well up my prices and do natural oral on my clients if it's such a small risk.

I don't think sex without DATY and kissing is boring at all, it's what you make of it. Clients I do DATY and kissing walk away satisfied as do clients who don't care for those things.

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

You started a thread asking for opinions. I gave you mine. If you think it's "ridiculous" that's up to you. I do think sex without DFK and DATY is boring. And so do a LOT of punters. You say you have only ever lost 2 clients because you wouldn't do that. Well I have been in the industry a long time, and I have gained a whole heap of clients because I do.

 

[michael21]

You started a thread asking for opinions. I gave you mine. If you think it's "ridiculous" that's up to you. I do think sex without DFK and DATY is boring. And so do a LOT of punters. You say you have only ever lost 2 clients because you wouldn't do that. Well I have been in the industry a long time, and I have gained a whole heap of clients because I do.

Yes very true,you will gain the repeat clients if you go the EXTRA mile.
I think it should be all incl in the price of F/S ie DATY, DFK,thats what we are really paying for right?yes we are.not give me a another 50 bucks and i will let you lick my pussy and peck me on my lips,what a crock of shit that is...
I will not see a W/L if she will NOT do DATY/DFK or it makes the service very clinical in my view anyway.

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

I include DFK and DATY in my prices, they are not extras. However, if they guys don't want to do that they don't have to

 

[fukmee]

It is always up to the WL. However I would never see a WL who uses a dam - I tried it once and gagged. Likewise I only see WLs who do you are silly, CIM, DATY and DFK. This is widely available so I am not deprived.

If a WL does not offer these services and loses custom as a result that is a perfect example of free enterprise at work.

 

[wingman]

It is always up to the WL. However I would never see a WL who uses a dam - I tried it once and gagged. Likewise I only see WLs who do you are silly, CIM, DATY and DFK. This is widely available so I am not deprived.

If a WL does not offer these services and loses custom as a result that is a perfect example of free enterprise at work.

Give me a list of which WL you see so that I never see them; I don't want to catch your diseases.

 

[cherrygirl]

Give me a list of which WL you see so that I never see them; I don't want to catch your diseases.

LOL fabulous. We have to have some standards of health and safety of the government will make prostitution illegal. Respect yeah? And to anyone who doesn't like paying for extras well technically you are still paying for kissing and daty when you purchase the e lj package. SO to those who don't like getting their ego knocked back paying for extras sorry but it really is The same deal. Get over It.

 

[wowlad]

Excuse my ignorance.....but what does daty stand for?

 

[Alecia the Foxx]

link not working so taken down