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johnpetter
The sexual performance is a big issue amongst the men. Through Super Horny Goat Weed every man can get a great satisfaction in their sexual life.
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I've heard that Horny Goat Weed is really good and also Indiaga (not sure if this is available in Australia though).
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oh my, i don't wanna grow horns...i want to be horny with salutation but without the horns...lol
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triking71
Let me know how it goes?
Sherry
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Does that stuff really work?? I would be interested to hear from anyone that has had success with any of the "natural" products available.
I always get asked by clients if I can recommend a herbal viagra that works. I wouldn't have a clue and honestly am very suss that they would work. So if anyone has had any luck then please post your suggestions xxxx
I always get asked by clients if I can recommend a herbal viagra that works. I wouldn't have a clue and honestly am very suss that they would work. So if anyone has had any luck then please post your suggestions xxxx
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Perth boy
Will it work for the women too?
If so I'll cook some into some cakes so she don't know. Worked with weed when we were young. Lol
If so I'll cook some into some cakes so she don't know. Worked with weed when we were young. Lol
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Has anybody on the Forum tried the goat weed? Would like to know if it works or if it is just another one of the money making scams.?????? Somehow I am always suspicious when instant success is promised. Same with diet pills, fat burning work-out machinery (fab abs in 7 days etc.), skin products (wrinkle free in 2 weeks).........etc etcR.xxxxxxxx
5ome0ne
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http://www.cusabio.com/down/1298432994_1.pdf
So according to experimental evidence, it works with rats with erectile dysfunction due to nerve injury, in a purified form in low dose.
There is also evidence to suggest the active ingredient of the plant (Icariin) enhance the production of nitric oxide on human endothelial
cells.
Nitric oxide plays a role in the signalling pathway, acting as a vasodilator, which is responsible for erection. Viagra works by changing the biochemistry of this NO signalling pathway, although Viagra does not enhance the production of NO. It works by inhibiting PDE5 which terminates the signal pathway thus prolonging the erection.
For an explanation on how the biochemistry of Viagra works:
http://www.wiley.com/college/boyer/0470003790/cutting_edge/viagra/viagra.htm
So it may help you if you have erectile dysfunction. Remember, there is no conclusive study conducted on human. The experiment was on rats. So use it at you own risk. I will not take any responsibility for any side or harmful effect. Also, there is no scientific evidence to suggest it helps to enhance the performance of man or rats without erectile dysfunction yet.
So according to experimental evidence, it works with rats with erectile dysfunction due to nerve injury, in a purified form in low dose.
There is also evidence to suggest the active ingredient of the plant (Icariin) enhance the production of nitric oxide on human endothelial
cells.
Nitric oxide plays a role in the signalling pathway, acting as a vasodilator, which is responsible for erection. Viagra works by changing the biochemistry of this NO signalling pathway, although Viagra does not enhance the production of NO. It works by inhibiting PDE5 which terminates the signal pathway thus prolonging the erection.
For an explanation on how the biochemistry of Viagra works:
http://www.wiley.com/college/boyer/0470003790/cutting_edge/viagra/viagra.htm
So it may help you if you have erectile dysfunction. Remember, there is no conclusive study conducted on human. The experiment was on rats. So use it at you own risk. I will not take any responsibility for any side or harmful effect. Also, there is no scientific evidence to suggest it helps to enhance the performance of man or rats without erectile dysfunction yet.
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5ome0ne
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Correction:
http://www.goldjournal.net/article/S0090-4295(06)02155-8/abstract (full journal access through library of your choice).
Apart from enhancing the production of NO on endothelial cells, icariin also exhibit the ability to inhibit PDE5 like sildenafil citrate.
On the first journal article, the rats received 1mg/kg icariin shows significant improvement. Now if we know the concentration of icariin on dried HGW sold in health food store, then you can probably work out how much you need to consume in order to get 1mg/kg for your weight. Not guarantee to work, but it's a start. Also, if you do the experiment with your group of friends, do it properly so that means it is double blind and with control and placebo.
http://www.goldjournal.net/article/S0090-4295(06)02155-8/abstract (full journal access through library of your choice).
Apart from enhancing the production of NO on endothelial cells, icariin also exhibit the ability to inhibit PDE5 like sildenafil citrate.
On the first journal article, the rats received 1mg/kg icariin shows significant improvement. Now if we know the concentration of icariin on dried HGW sold in health food store, then you can probably work out how much you need to consume in order to get 1mg/kg for your weight. Not guarantee to work, but it's a start. Also, if you do the experiment with your group of friends, do it properly so that means it is double blind and with control and placebo.
honestman
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(This is a manual repost; thanks to the backup copy I've made before the forum crash)
With any so called aphrodisiac's - if you have never ever tried them in your entire lifetime, then yes it would work to a degree that your body responds to it as something 'new'. Whether that 'new' response is beneficial to the point where you can notice it OR not is really difficult to tell. Simply because it relies upon so many things. From my experience with all supplementations - taking libido enhancements and hippy herbal stuff is only "half the job".
So where does the rest of 50% goes? It's all about taking care on your other things. From my experience I believe the overall efficacy of all things hippy is really dependant on a number of things, but these three are pretty much what I consider the most important:
1. Your other systems (our libido doesn't just depend and act upon just the reproductive system by itself, the more you research about it the more it makes sense) - it is really a combination of how well kept your other systems are; being the cardiovascular/respiratory (obviously), nervous, digestive, and muscular/skeletal system (try performing a mish position with a cyst on the lower back - now that's not fun).
2. Your genetic/somatotype profile and any conditions on the thyroid - now for me being Asian with a sporadically (not always, a living proof that being an Ectomorph is never a constant state) high metabolism; this does affect the way hormones are being regulated or even exchanged with oestrogen. This is quite a complicated subject - but to put in simple terms, the more you try to boost either hormones in the hope for better libido - your body will always make attempt/s to revert back to its' previous 'default' balance.
3. NOW out of the three - this I believe is the most important - your brain itself. If you are happy, as in you have all the healthy levels of the neurotransmitters (dopamine, serotonin,etc) then you should feel and consider yourself positive in all regards. The issue at hand is whether or not whether we are constantly 'enough' to be in this emotional state. Of course this is subjective to circumstances at hand. If you do decide to take the libido pills when you are all happy - then of course it'll work, unless the only other thing that's left is placebo - but first if you are happy - then it doesn't matter. Again, this introduces so many variables that I won't go further
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I'm not a doctor myself (hell don't anyone wish they're doctors themselves??), but more rather a curious individual who's gone through lengths (many years) into (still) finding out ways on improving myself in general, and that yes - I do have a mild case of ED.
Hope this helps.
- An honest view from the honestman
With any so called aphrodisiac's - if you have never ever tried them in your entire lifetime, then yes it would work to a degree that your body responds to it as something 'new'. Whether that 'new' response is beneficial to the point where you can notice it OR not is really difficult to tell. Simply because it relies upon so many things. From my experience with all supplementations - taking libido enhancements and hippy herbal stuff is only "half the job".
So where does the rest of 50% goes? It's all about taking care on your other things. From my experience I believe the overall efficacy of all things hippy is really dependant on a number of things, but these three are pretty much what I consider the most important:
1. Your other systems (our libido doesn't just depend and act upon just the reproductive system by itself, the more you research about it the more it makes sense) - it is really a combination of how well kept your other systems are; being the cardiovascular/respiratory (obviously), nervous, digestive, and muscular/skeletal system (try performing a mish position with a cyst on the lower back - now that's not fun).
2. Your genetic/somatotype profile and any conditions on the thyroid - now for me being Asian with a sporadically (not always, a living proof that being an Ectomorph is never a constant state) high metabolism; this does affect the way hormones are being regulated or even exchanged with oestrogen. This is quite a complicated subject - but to put in simple terms, the more you try to boost either hormones in the hope for better libido - your body will always make attempt/s to revert back to its' previous 'default' balance.
3. NOW out of the three - this I believe is the most important - your brain itself. If you are happy, as in you have all the healthy levels of the neurotransmitters (dopamine, serotonin,etc) then you should feel and consider yourself positive in all regards. The issue at hand is whether or not whether we are constantly 'enough' to be in this emotional state. Of course this is subjective to circumstances at hand. If you do decide to take the libido pills when you are all happy - then of course it'll work, unless the only other thing that's left is placebo - but first if you are happy - then it doesn't matter. Again, this introduces so many variables that I won't go further
.I'm not a doctor myself (hell don't anyone wish they're doctors themselves
??), but more rather a curious individual who's gone through lengths (many years) into (still) finding out ways on improving myself in general, and that yes - I do have a mild case of ED.Hope this helps.
- An honest view from the honestman
McLuvin
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Both men and women can benefit from sildenafil or tadalafil.... standard ED meds. In women it increases blood flow to the genital area... which doesn't necessarily equate to 'getting horny' but in many women the warmer/higher temp vagina will tend towards that direction. Tried and tested.
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this stuff is such bullshit!
it's all in the mind, anyways. if you're convinced that something you're taking is going to turn you on, chances are that it will. placebo effect and whatnot.
it's all in the mind, anyways. if you're convinced that something you're taking is going to turn you on, chances are that it will. placebo effect and whatnot.
SashaFabulous
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the best herb ive heard of is-yohimbe its from west africa its supposed to be a natural aphrodiciac and viagra
honestman
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aaaa yes, the 'supposedly' underground king of herbs - unfortunately it is pretty much impossible to obtain, buy, import to Oz.
HOWEVER, in all my years of reading and researching on aphrodisiacs; including yohimbe, I came accross a fact that there WAS such a product in Australia (click here)
But. for as long as I remembered - this product always had been in a "discontinued" state for so long. And another thing - it is homeopathic., one of the most controversial forms of medicines. Speak to any health store's and you'll likely reach the same answer - it's just placebo tablets not the real thing. From my limited but personal experience with homeopathic medicine (I've tried HGH - human growth hormone) - simply nothing happens, just a sugary tablet that you dissolve under your tongue.