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Should I have bought him a beer??

billybones

Thrillseeker
Legend Member
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Coming home this evening, when out of the corner of my eye I saw a guy holding a big sign warning of a speed camera ahead. Sure enough, about 300 metres later there it was. Another 500 metres and I went passed a bottle shop.
Should I have called in and got my new friend a beer???
 

Dallas

Legend Member
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You could have bought him a beer but I had heard that giving anyone a heads up about a speed camera was illegal, so your new friend might have got fined. So maybe all the passing motorists should have given him $1, to help pay his possible fine, and also a lot of beer when he got home from his community service : )
 

homer

Doh!
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Yes buy him a beer and a porn mag as appreciation. They are a group called RRR, they have a facebook page.
I agree with their mantra. Camera doe$ not $ave life, but a good tool for revenue rai$ing.
 

Dallas

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I agree homer, getting a fine in the mail for half your weekly salary 4 weeks after the event isn't going to save live, it's about revenue. It'd be like your child not doing their home work or something, then surprising them with a punishment 4 weeks later. It's called bullying.
 

oz-surfer

Gold Member
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I know this response is not going to be popular, but I'm sorry I just don't get it.

If you speed you should be fined because it is dangerous and proven to be the main factor in most fatalities. If it raises funds, well that's great too because it means all you speeders are contributing to the public purse for the benefit of the State .

Sorry my logic is simple in this regard
 

Dallas

Legend Member
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I agree you should be fined and that speed kills, but my issue is not being fined at the time, like they used to do. If their intentions were genuine, they'd fine you immediately but as it's about revenue raising and meeting quota's as my highway patrol neighbour has often said really frustrates him, then I don't agree with it. My logic is simple too.
 

Happy2

Legend Member
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I know this response is not going to be popular, but I'm sorry I just don't get it.

If you speed you should be fined because it is dangerous and proven to be the main factor in most fatalities. If it raises funds, well that's great too because it means all you speeders are contributing to the public purse for the benefit of the State .

Sorry my logic is simple in this regard

I am actually with you oz-surfer
Speeding fines are really a totally voluntary tax
It's a tax you purposely inflict on yoursele
 

Dallas

Legend Member
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It's also a tax that penalises one group of people far more significantly than another. If it's supposed to be a method to prevent recalcitrant behaviour as the Commissioner states then the same penalty should be applied fairly to all. But instead you have a situation where one person working in a coffee shop pays a whole weeks wages and maybe has to go onto a payment plan for months or not buy their kids something important, while someone on a very high income cost them 10 minutes of their income and the inconvenience of handing the fine to their secretary to sort out. A fair system would force both people to give up the same amount of their time each. Some say, oh but it's the same money, yes, but you're not buying a service, it's a method the Commissioner uses to supposedly encourage compliance evenly to each individual, and in this regard it fails. In my job I deal constantly with either keeping or giving back fines due to individual circumstances and the system really has no effect on the wealthy yet can destroy lives at the lower end if someone doesn't step in to try to apply it fairly.
 

Happy2

Legend Member
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23
You think those penalties are dear Dallas You try being a few kilos over the weight limit when driving a truck
As for graduated fines linked to your income for the year. I think that an excellent idea Especially 3 years ago when I made a loss for the season Then they would have owed me money , wouldn't they?
 

homer

Doh!
Legend Member
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I agree with if you do the crime then you gotta do the time. But to claim that the camera $ave$ live$ and cameras in WA these days are well hidden behind a bush with no warning signs before or after you pass it. Just tells people that they want your $$$. And how is that life $aving? I don't normally speed, but do find myself unintentionally going over 2-3km sometimes.

I've driven in NSW, they put up signs before all the cameras, even the mobile cameras and they don't hide it behind a bush. I was shocked to see the sign being placed before the mobile camera. Very shocked to say the least. That is a good initiative, and if you still get flashed after seeing the sign, then you gotta be doing something not too right.
 

Ginger Spice

Here Comes Trouble
Legend Member
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There is a facebook page specifically for "revenue raisers" They could be part of this? It is not illegal, as there should be a sign up anyway saying there is a speed camera ahead :)
 

asianguy77

Diamond Member
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I like the next person, hate paying speeding fines, and I do get my fair share. I do though, think they do help slow people down. However, advertising where they will be located sort of defeats the purpose.
 
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