Should a 13 year be allowed to travel on trains

[Ms Sue]

I let my 13 year have a sleep over and go to concert Friday night however not only did the parents allow my Daugther to attend the concert on her own in the mosh pit ..., they allowed her to catch a train home at 10.45 pm after the concert ... So the question is should they have told me about concert and should they have told me about catching the train from Perth to Warwick on a Friday night by them selfs
Ms sue

 

[Mrs Langtrees]

As to the title 13 yr olds should be allowed to use the train on there own in daylight. They should not be allowed to use train after say 7pm.
Parents that have sleep over children should inform parents of all excursions they are taking or allowing the children to go on. Common sense and common courtesy.

 

[Ms Sue]

This is was our beautiful Miss B ... Still trying to get over it lol................

 

[Dez]

They should have told you about the mosh aspect and the train!

I think 13 is too young to be on transport that late at night without adult/guardian supervision. Even during the daylight hours it can be risky but some 13yrs are responsible enough to handle it and others might not be...and it depends on the purpose of the transport, as in for getting to and from school. But definitely not for getting home from a concert, not when there is a high probability of drunkards travelling at the same time.

I think that the parents should have at least conferred with you first, allowed for you to agree or disagree or find a solution that works for you both.

And mosh pits are dangerous!!! There really has to be informed consent when taking care of another families child, down to almost every detail. I'm not saying itinerary style but for me I assume they don't know anything and so I tell them every detail I would want to know if it was my child being looked after.

 

[svengali]

I faced this dilemma when my High school aged daughter and a friend wanted to go to a rock concert in Northbridge an a Saturday afternoon/evening. The other girl's parents weren't too keen on them going on their own and neither was I so in the end I went with them and agreed to stay discreetly in the background if they met up with any friends there.

The band, fortunately, while loud, was pretty damn good with a genuinely talented bunch of musos who knew their stuff and gave the crowd a first-class performance. Both girls were as high as kites afterwards and I earned a truckload of brownie points so it was all good.

No way would I have allowed them to travel in and back alone though, even in the early evening.

In Sue's case, I have to agree that, definitely, the other girl's parents should have asked you first and my answer would have been a firm NO!! The train, city streets, drunk/drugged meatheads and a skinny 13 year old in a mosh pit with said meatheads would send my protective Daddy instincts into overdrive.

 

[Thatguy]

at that age...

they should have told you about the concert and travel arrangements so you can decide what's ok for your daughter... would they have taken responsibility if anything had of happened to your kid?...

if I had a 13 yo... the answer would have been a resounding HELL NO!..

I like Svengali's alternative... everyone is happy...

 

[Lingham]

You did the right thing, Svengali. I don't have a daughter, but if I did, particularly if she was just 13, I would not allow her to travel alone on the train in the evening or at night, even if she was with a friend.

 

[bushseeker]

Probably but I would be expecting pick up and drop off... from the platform at the station

 

[Happy2]

As a country hick who has only used the train in daylight or from Subi after a football match
How bad is the train at night in our beloved Capital?

 

[sparky]

No one should be making choices like that with the safety of your kids, its like letting your kids stay over and just having a few drinks or a puff of a joint no harm if you're of age, but if not of age its not their decision to make with the upbringing of your kids
I'd be pissed off and having words with said parents and not too keen on letting my kid stay there again in the future

 

[Linda]

I let my 13 year have a sleep over and go to concert Friday night however not only did the parents allow my Daugther to attend the concert on her own in the mosh pit ..., they allowed her to catch a train home at 10.45 pm after the concert ... So the question is should they have told me about concert and should they have told me about catching the train from Perth to Warwick on a Friday night by them selfs
Ms sue

absolutely they should have thats bull shit no one that age should travel on trains that late expecially in perth i would rip them a new one if that was my baby

 

[Linda]

THATS JUST PLAIN RUDE

 

[Linda]

As to the title 13 yr olds should be allowed to use the train on there own in daylight. They should not be allowed to use train after say 7pm.
Parents that have sleep over children should inform parents of all excursions they are taking or allowing the children to go on. Common sense and common courtesy.

My thoughts exactly

 

[Linda]

i am quite capable at looking after myself but i wouldnt even go anywhere near perth train station at night

 

[Dallas]

I'm looking after my quite mature 13 year old Niece at the moment and she's a guy magnet for late teenage males, so there's no way in hell I'd let her on a train at night, even when she goes to the movies I pick her up and drop her off etc. She's pleased as the older guys worry her. I also bought her an iPhone like mine and we both have the friend finder app on it so we can both see where each other is. I told her off once for walking home late as I could see, and she told me off once as she saw the little GPS dot pointed over Langtrees!

 

[Ms Sue]

I like that idea Dallas...... We both have iphone.... However do you think I am being over protective .... Could I put it on her phone without her knowing... lol................ xoxoxo

 

[johnlou]

I like that idea Dallas...... We both have iphone.... However do you think I am being over protective .... Could I put it on her phone without her knowing... lol................ xoxoxo

Miss Sue if you add app to her phone , you will loose her trust when she finds it

 

[suzythefloozy]

Then again surely a responsible parent would have sussed all these aspects out BEFORE letting their daughter go on a sleepover. No? If you haven't briefed your kids on the "do"s and "don't"s and not assessed the parents of the other kids - surely then it's up to parent to bear a large part of the (ir)responsibility.

 

[Ms Sue]

Oh Suzie with a statement like that you DONT have kids.... I was the responsible parent took the child to the sleepover spoke to the parents and let me reassure you that there was no mention of plans for that night..... When I took there daughter to adventure world they both stay because they where concerned of there child's welfare.... However I will never not asked what the kids will be doing minute by minute and maybe even get them to sign a contract in further....
My daughter does understand the Do and Dont's however at 13 years old you do trust the people that are in care of you.................

 

[estafarr]

Hey Sue - you did the right thing - I would never allow 13 yo girls on the Perth trains at night - there is adventure and there is dangerous - I think you have cause to be concerned. Parenting - biggest job I ever did!

 

[Dallas]

I like that idea Dallas...... We both have iphone.... However do you think I am being over protective .... Could I put it on her phone without her knowing... lol................ xoxoxo

I've heard this said before by other parents Sue but I don't think you're being over protective - you sound like a good mum! xx

My niece and I are lucky we have a great relationship and I discussed the friend finder app and both of us decided it would be good for us as we have no secrets from each other. You could put it on without her knowing but most likely she'd find out as kids are smart then you'd lose her trust.

What I did was play Call of Duty with her for a few hours on Xbox and while she's winning bring the idea up! I talk to her about most things while we're killing zombies - it's a great togetherness thing! ... you may want to try clothes shopping perhaps

 

[Ms Sue]

She is a good kid and does tell us everything ... Hence that how we knew about concert and train..... She loves to climb into my bed in the morning and tell me all her wonderful dreams and her complains.... I love making them stuck in the car with me ... they cant run............lol......... and my car my music... so we talk because I always put it on AM when she gets in........... Cruel but works.................

 

[Happy2]

Mean Mean, yet caring loving mum

 

[Dallas]

She is a good kid and does tell us everything ... Hence that how we knew about concert and train..... She loves to climb into my bed in the morning and tell me all her wonderful dreams and her complains.... I love making them stuck in the car with me ... they cant run............lol......... and my car my music... so we talk because I always put it on AM when she gets in........... Cruel but works.................

She sounds great Sue, sounds like you could discuss the friend finder app and she'd see it's merrits like my niece did

 

[bushseeker]

As a country hick who has only used the train in daylight or from Subi after a football match
How bad is the train at night in our beloved Capital?

A 44 yo male has no issues any time on the trains. ....
Thats not what the post was about
Honestly id say 99they would have no worries....... what parent would risk the 1??

 

[garibaldi]

Well... a 16 year old girl (may have) has lost her feet when hit by a train ... overnight :/ (Perth)
http://www.news.com.au/national/wes...-horror-accident/story-fnii5thn-1226843455574

 

[Dallas]

Well... a 16 year old girl has lost her feet when hit by a train... overnight :/ (Perth)
http://www.news.com.au/national/wes...-horror-accident/story-fnii5thn-1226843455574

Aw that's so sad

 

[Sexty8]

Wrong thing, wrong time, wrong responsibilities... sad cos how would you trust em again..
BTW you can use "find my iphone" and she wont know you are looking