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HappyPirate

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https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31277222/scam-victim-lured-others-and-refuses-to-cry-foul/

Mark Gibson and Angela Pownall - The West Australian on April 6, 2016, 1:46 am

WA authorities have taken the rare step of warning the public about a man who has sent at least $3 million of his and other people’s money to West African scammers. Peter Melvin Kleinig, 65, became embroiled in the scam about eight years ago, sending his life savings to invest in a gold mining company. Police believe the former Esperance farmer then persuaded at least 25 people to hand over money for the overseas scammers. One victim, the late Fred Williams, sold three properties and lost more than $2 million at the urging of his friend Mr Kleinig. Acting Commissioner for Consumer Protection David Hillyard said Mr Kleinig was given repeated warnings over years that he was being duped but still believed he was about to reap $5.7 million. “It’s extremely sad that Peter Kleinig has lost his life savings and refuses to accept that he is at the centre of a fraud,” he said. “However, when the actions of a victim present a financial risk to other members of the community, authorities have a responsibility to step in to protect the public.” The Department for Consumer Protection yesterday entered an “enforceable undertaking” with Mr Kleinig in which he agreed not to solicit or accept funds from anyone for the Ghana scheme. Despite that, Mr Kleinig insisted that $5.7 million was about to be deposited in his bank account. “There’s just one final hurdle. I have to pay a transfer fee of $18,000,” he said. The scammers repeatedly ask victims to pay fees for a variety of reasons to access their profits and are believed to contact Mr Kleinig daily via telephone or email. Consumer protection officers believe the scammers could have got Mr Kleinig’s details from past shares or investments. They monitored money transfer services for possible scams and found out he was sending large sums to Africa. They confirmed he had no relatives or business dealings there and warned him of a likely scam. When Mr Kleinig’s activity continued for a year, officers visited him to no avail. Instead, he was by then getting others to “invest” in the scheme and became the department’s most prolific victim. In August 2014, WA’s major fraud squad met people in Esperance they believed had been scammed. The town had emerged as a fraud hotspot over two years with more than 30 suspected victims sending $720,000 overseas — some to fake lovers, others to the African scam. Mr Williams’ son Jim Williams believes the stress of the failed investment contributed to his father’s fatal stroke. “The whole thing of the guilt and the pressure, he lost so much money,” he said. “We told him it was definitely a scam because it was way too good to be true. “Peter’s got to be stopped. If he approaches anyone, just say no because it’s just a dead end trail.”

Major fraud squad detective Trevor Leach said he believed at least 25 people had given money to the scammers via Mr Kleinig. “I think (Kleinig) is feeling trapped in some ways that he’s taken money from friends and a lot of people he knows and he feels indebted to them,” he said. Mr Hillyard said if Mr Kleinig breached the legal undertaking, then the department would take the case to the Supreme Court for a judge to take formal action against him.


Soooooo how many Spam emails did you get this week????????
 

HappyPirate

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Ahoy;- Here another one.
Sooo how many Scam phone calls did you get today??????


https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/31279050/92yo-woman-scammed-out-of-fake-back-taxes/


A 92-year-old woman has been scammed out of thousands of dollars in fake back taxes in South Australia. The victim was targeted by telephone scammers claiming she owed the Australian Taxation Office $30,000, and was threatened with arrest and more fines if she didn't pay, police say. The woman, from Victor Harbor south of Adelaide, ended up depositing thousands of dollars into two scammers' bank accounts.
 

Happy2

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I get one or two a week But mine are legit As mine come from The Mother Country
Not those orrible Nigerians and Ghanaians

The only one of my spams that nearly got through Was one that came through on my IP's letterhead saying my email box was full It looked so real
 

Happy2

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Ahoy;- Here another one.
Sooo how many Scam phone calls did you get today??????


https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/31279050/92yo-woman-scammed-out-of-fake-back-taxes/


A 92-year-old woman has been scammed out of thousands of dollars in fake back taxes in South Australia. The victim was targeted by telephone scammers claiming she owed the Australian Taxation Office $30,000, and was threatened with arrest and more fines if she didn't pay, police say. The woman, from Victor Harbor south of Adelaide, ended up depositing thousands of dollars into two scammers' bank accounts.
That bloody Dallas !!
 

homer

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https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31277222/scam-victim-lured-others-and-refuses-to-cry-foul/

Mark Gibson and Angela Pownall - The West Australian on April 6, 2016, 1:46 am

WA authorities have taken the rare step of warning the public about a man who has sent at least $3 million of his and other people’s money to West African scammers. Peter Melvin Kleinig, 65, became embroiled in the scam about eight years ago, sending his life savings to invest in a gold mining company. Police believe the former Esperance farmer then persuaded at least 25 people to hand over money for the overseas scammers. One victim, the late Fred Williams, sold three properties and lost more than $2 million at the urging of his friend Mr Kleinig. Acting Commissioner for Consumer Protection David Hillyard said Mr Kleinig was given repeated warnings over years that he was being duped but still believed he was about to reap $5.7 million. “It’s extremely sad that Peter Kleinig has lost his life savings and refuses to accept that he is at the centre of a fraud,” he said. “However, when the actions of a victim present a financial risk to other members of the community, authorities have a responsibility to step in to protect the public.” The Department for Consumer Protection yesterday entered an “enforceable undertaking” with Mr Kleinig in which he agreed not to solicit or accept funds from anyone for the Ghana scheme. Despite that, Mr Kleinig insisted that $5.7 million was about to be deposited in his bank account. “There’s just one final hurdle. I have to pay a transfer fee of $18,000,” he said. The scammers repeatedly ask victims to pay fees for a variety of reasons to access their profits and are believed to contact Mr Kleinig daily via telephone or email. Consumer protection officers believe the scammers could have got Mr Kleinig’s details from past shares or investments. They monitored money transfer services for possible scams and found out he was sending large sums to Africa. They confirmed he had no relatives or business dealings there and warned him of a likely scam. When Mr Kleinig’s activity continued for a year, officers visited him to no avail. Instead, he was by then getting others to “invest” in the scheme and became the department’s most prolific victim. In August 2014, WA’s major fraud squad met people in Esperance they believed had been scammed. The town had emerged as a fraud hotspot over two years with more than 30 suspected victims sending $720,000 overseas — some to fake lovers, others to the African scam. Mr Williams’ son Jim Williams believes the stress of the failed investment contributed to his father’s fatal stroke. “The whole thing of the guilt and the pressure, he lost so much money,” he said. “We told him it was definitely a scam because it was way too good to be true. “Peter’s got to be stopped. If he approaches anyone, just say no because it’s just a dead end trail.”

Major fraud squad detective Trevor Leach said he believed at least 25 people had given money to the scammers via Mr Kleinig. “I think (Kleinig) is feeling trapped in some ways that he’s taken money from friends and a lot of people he knows and he feels indebted to them,” he said. Mr Hillyard said if Mr Kleinig breached the legal undertaking, then the department would take the case to the Supreme Court for a judge to take formal action against him.


Soooooo how many Spam emails did you get this week????????

I smell a dirty tractor in this....one of yours H2?

Some people are just too gullible. If somethings are too good to be true, they usually are.

I used to receive phone calls from Microsoft...LOL...I told them I don't have a computer and f**k the hell off.
And people calling you telling your computer caught a virus and only them can remove them for you...I told them no thanks and I will set my computer alight.

People just need to leave the spam/scam email alone, they are delivered to the Spam folder for a reason.

And there was like snail mail spam/scam, telling you you've won couple hundred millions, claim your ticket now etc...

People just need to verify the validity of the proposition.
 

XLNC

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Police believe the former Esperance farmer then persuaded at least 25 people to hand over money for the overseas scammers.

Another dodgy WA farmer... tsk tsk tsk. :rolleyes:

I too get the occasional call from 'Microsoft' or 'Telstra'. I usually lie through my teeth and pretend I have neither company's products or services and innocently ask "But surely you would know that?" The caller just hangs up at that point. How rude.
 

Morgan Sapphire

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I got a phone call the other day from the MasterCard investigations bureau. They asked for my card details for an investigation as somebody had used my card overseas recently. Pity I haven't been for a number of years. So I gave this caller my card details - 123 456 789 012 with the expiry of 01/16 and the security number on the back as 123. The f@#*ing idiot didn't even realise that HE was being scammed until I cracked up laughing after about 5 minutes of wasting his time. Then I copped a mouthful of abuse to which I quietly told him to never call back and then I hung up. He He !
 

Morgan Sapphire

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If somebody calls regarding a problem with your computer, just tell them you have a Mac. They will hang up straight away.
 

Morgan Sapphire

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And finally, if a Telco you've never heard of before calls to get you to change over to them, say you can't get any other coverage where you are except Telstra. That definitely works.
 

Phoebe

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And finally, if a Telco you've never heard of before calls to get you to change over to them, say you can't get any other coverage where you are except Telstra. That definitely works.

Thats actually true in most cases, in my case Telstra provides me with full 4 and 3G coverage where as Optus can not... So I wouldn't be lying... Mobile networks and makeup foundation are all about coverage ;)
 

Phoebe

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How to apply foundation you see coverage... :)

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Phone coverage much the same.. :)
 

XLNC

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That ATO call was quite polite and friendly. I got one in a much sterner, wrath-of-God, end-times tone some months ago. Luckily my answering machine recorded it so I could listen to it over and over again. Hilarious. :D
 
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