Quiet Time.. Dont Get Yourself Down

[ChelseaBloom]

So times are a little bit quiet at the moment, but we all are in this together, and as my mother used to say, "many hands make lite work" so maybe doing a little bit of extra adverts we can get the regs back up, and let the bookings hit the roof!

Come on sexy, strong, beautiful independent women that we all are, we can do this together! So keep the smiles going and we can push through the tough times together. <3

 

[funflyer]

You could try many hands on me anytime. I'm sure it would be light work!

 

[ChelseaBloom]

 

[ChelseaBloom]

You could try many hands on me anytime. I'm sure it would be light work!

Well you know the drill..

 

[ross89]

So times are a little bit quiet at the moment, but we all are in this together, and as my mother used to say, "many hands make lite work" so maybe doing a little bit of extra adverts we can get the regs back up, and let the bookings hit the roof!

Come on sexy, strong, beautiful independent women that we all are, we can do this together! So keep the smiles going and we can push through the tough times together. <3

I don't think advertising will do much good unfortunately. Call me a pessimist but I think the only way you'll drum up regular, long term business is to reduce the hourly rates. Ginger posted about this same issue in January and I dare say it hasn't improved a great deal? A few spikes here and there but nothing to write home about.

It's no doubt an unpopular idea but given the amount of redundancies, employer cutbacks, bankruptcies and business closures that are happening every day in Perth, it may be a choice you'll have to consider. Is it worth seeing 5 punters a day at $200 or $300 a day or 1 or 2 at $400?

Turns out paying unskilled workers 100k+p/a in Western Australia wasn't such a good idea...

 

[funflyer]

I don't think advertising will do much good unfortunately. Call me a pessimist but I think the only way you'll drum up regular, long term business is to reduce the hourly rates. Ginger posted about this same issue in January and I dare say it hasn't improved a great deal? A few spikes here and there but nothing to write home about.

It's no doubt an unpopular idea but given the amount of redundancies, employer cutbacks, bankruptcies and business closures that are happening every day in Perth, it may be a choice you'll have to consider. Is it worth seeing 5 punters a day at $200 or $300 a day or 1 or 2 at $400?

Turns out paying unskilled workers 100k+p/a in Western Australia wasn't such a good idea...

The girls at Langtrees likePetabloom and the others only get $200 an hour already. The house takes half and daily advertising charges on top.

 

[HappyPirate]

Ahoy;- Plenty of work in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide

 

[Obbie]

Lower the price and they will come !

 

[ross89]

The girls at Langtrees likePetabloom and the others only get $200 an hour already. The house takes half and daily advertising charges on top.

I understand that. I know perfectly well what the rent and outgoings are like in Burswood etc so it's going to be a challenge but the only way to get more punters is to drop the prices. Also don't forget about Tinder.

West Australians in particular have been paying to much for everything for too long now and blind Freddy can see the writing is on the wall.

 

[funflyer]

Ahoy;- Plenty of work in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide

But aren't the prices generally cheaper in those cities. In the past I've met girls who live in Sydney and Melbourne that told me they come over to Perth because the money's better her

 

[funflyer]

I'm in Cambodia at the moment. Real stunners will go all night for $50 !!! Let's hope we can replicate those prices in Perth lol

 

[HappyPirate]

Ahoy that is very true, the money volume is better in W.A
Generally speaking "The high-end Girls" always ask top dollar in any-city, as well they do a lot of tours.
I have just recently seen a Perth Girl and I was very surprised when she quoted me S.A. prices and in gereneral S.A is cheeper than W.A pricing.

But aren't the prices generally cheaper in those cities. In the past I've met girls who live in Sydney and Melbourne that told me they come over to Perth because the money's better her

 

[Shaylee]

I don't think the answer is too lower the price at all.. I have been in and out this industry for years and this is generally a quiet time regardless with school holidays and easter break.. lowering the price means also lowering the standards of the average client who walks through the doors and this is something high class WL are not interested in doing... As the old saying goes 'you pay for what you get' esp in the sex industry..

Peta is 100% correct re drumming up business and advertising etc- we need to keep our standards or we wouldnt work in the industry at all!

 

[ross89]

Thats the thing Shaylee, it isn't just Easter or the school holidays like previous years. January was quiet because it was christmas, february wss quiet because it was hot yada yada yada. You can advertise till you're blue in the face but if the people you're targeting have no money, then what?

Has anyone seen what China has done this week? Cut taxes for domestic Iron Ore miners. The implications of that will be massive in WA. We're talking serious job losses, govco loosing billions in revenue etc. It will affect all of us. The rainy day our parents and grandparents told us about is just around the corner.

 

[Rochelle]

School holiday/quiet period........there is always an excuse. I have been in the industry for 5 years long interruption and I have to say that the industry has slowed down in general bit by bit. Our industry is one of the first industries (followed by other service industries like hospitality and the retail) that feels the pinch when economy slows down. Just during the last months I had several clients (especially mining industry but not only) telling me that they got made redundant, have to work part time or don't know what will happen if the project they are working on at the moment is finished. I guess it is not rocket science to work out that in an insecure economical environment people decide to spend less on luxury.
However, people do decide to treat themselves and that is where advertising comes in and most importantly customer service........a friendly environment, a smile, a warm welcome, a chat, a game of pool before the action in the room.
The more competitive an industry is the more we have to focus on customer service........making LT for example the place to go to for that treat.
I know that the pricing argument has been around since the last increase.......let me think........three years or so ago and it is tiring. I am with Peta........let's focus on other ways to make LT attractive to clients other than the dollars.

 

[funflyer]

I don't think the answer is too lower the price at all.. I have been in and out this industry for years and this is generally a quiet time regardless with school holidays and easter break.. lowering the price means also lowering the standards of the average client who walks through the doors and this is something high class WL are not interested in doing... As the old saying goes 'you pay for what you get' esp in the sex industry..

Peta is 100% correct re drumming up business and advertising etc- we need to keep our standards or we wouldnt work in the industry at all!

Nearly all businesses discount or lower prices in difficult times. The sex industry should not feel immune to this basic business reality.
Dropping standards is a personal choice and nothing to do with lower pricing. The W/L always has the right to refuse to see a client if he doesn't meet her required criterion and I know for a fact that even Langtrees often sees a flow of obnoxious inebriated clients in the early hours of the morning especially on weekends.

 

[Obbie]

School holiday/quiet period........there is always an excuse. I have been in the industry for 5 years long interruption and I have to say that the industry has slowed down in general bit by bit. Our industry is one of the first industries (followed by other service industries like hospitality and the retail) that feels the pinch when economy slows down. Just during the last months I had several clients (especially mining industry but not only) telling me that they got made redundant, have to work part time or don't know what will happen if the project they are working on at the moment is finished. I guess it is not rocket science to work out that in an insecure economical environment people decide to spend less on luxury.
However, people do decide to treat themselves and that is where advertising comes in and most importantly customer service........a friendly environment, a smile, a warm welcome, a chat, a game of pool before the action in the room.
The more competitive an industry is the more we have to focus on customer service........making LT for example the place to go to for that treat.
I know that the pricing argument has been around since the last increase.......let me think........three years or so ago and it is tiring. I am with Peta........let's focus on other ways to make LT attractive to clients other than the dollars.

Have to agree with you Rochelle try being in the transport industry it's the same for us as is you girls we have people who undercut us so low may as well park up and go broke you have the asian amps that are doing the same sort of service for less that's the hard bit that makes the better ones close up or go elsewhere $$

 

[funflyer]

School holiday/quiet period........there is always an excuse. I have been in the industry for 5 years long interruption and I have to say that the industry has slowed down in general bit by bit. Our industry is one of the first industries (followed by other service industries like hospitality and the retail) that feels the pinch when economy slows down. Just during the last months I had several clients (especially mining industry but not only) telling me that they got made redundant, have to work part time or don't know what will happen if the project they are working on at the moment is finished. I guess it is not rocket science to work out that in an insecure economical environment people decide to spend less on luxury.
However, people do decide to treat themselves and that is where advertising comes in and most importantly customer service........a friendly environment, a smile, a warm welcome, a chat, a game of pool before the action in the room.
The more competitive an industry is the more we have to focus on customer service........making LT for example the place to go to for that treat.
I know that the pricing argument has been around since the last increase.......let me think........three years or so ago and it is tiring. I am with Peta........let's focus on other ways to make LT attractive to clients other than the dollars.

Pricing does come into it. My home is now worth $25% less than when I bought it 5 years ago in the boom times. Try crying about that to potential buyers! What goes up can definately come down!

 

[glitch69]

I'm going to sit on the fence and say both sides are valid. Service standards can be upped or at least maintained. As for the price, instead of lowering rates why not reward loyalty. So maybe a discount for every 5th booking for example...A bit of money is lost yes but only for your regulars and you weed out price chasers...I'm sure we would all appreciate a bit of love for coming back and back and back. You were going to spend money advertising anyway...why not spend the money where it counts..

 

[Shaylee]

Thats the thing Shaylee, it isn't just Easter or the school holidays like previous years. January was quiet because it was christmas, february wss quiet because it was hot yada yada yada. You can advertise till you're blue in the face but if the people you're targeting have no money, then what?

Has anyone seen what China has done this week? Cut taxes for domestic Iron Ore miners. The implications of that will be massive in WA. We're talking serious job losses, govco loosing billions in revenue etc. It will affect all of us. The rainy day our parents and grandparents told us about is just around the corner.

Ross I think you misunderstood me... this industry is defiantly going through a bad patch and I believe will be the case for at least a few years to come as the economy is in a very bad way and agree with all you said... but my point was lowering the prices will not get more punters in the door it will just attract the wrong kind of people... the truth is there is still people who have a need to have sex and have money.. but whilst the hard times are ahead there just wont be everyone else splurging and throwing money around so by advertising and promoting yourself more you have a lot more of a successful chance to pick up the guys who still need our services..

 

[Shaylee]

School holiday/quiet period........there is always an excuse. I have been in the industry for 5 years long interruption and I have to say that the industry has slowed down in general bit by bit. Our industry is one of the first industries (followed by other service industries like hospitality and the retail) that feels the pinch when economy slows down. Just during the last months I had several clients (especially mining industry but not only) telling me that they got made redundant, have to work part time or don't know what will happen if the project they are working on at the moment is finished. I guess it is not rocket science to work out that in an insecure economical environment people decide to spend less on luxury.
However, people do decide to treat themselves and that is where advertising comes in and most importantly customer service........a friendly environment, a smile, a warm welcome, a chat, a game of pool before the action in the room.
The more competitive an industry is the more we have to focus on customer service........making LT for example the place to go to for that treat.
I know that the pricing argument has been around since the last increase.......let me think........three years or so ago and it is tiring. I am with Peta........let's focus on other ways to make LT attractive to clients other than the dollars.

Fantastic Rochelle and exactly what the point I was trying to make was just too tired too write all that hehe

 

[Madam Tracey]

What about a "Happy Hour " say from 5pm - 8pm and charge say $350 instead of $400.
What do clients and ladies think of that for an idea? Could maybe generate some extra business.
PS I can do the maths 5 - 8 = 3 hours (not 1 happy hour)

 

[funflyer]

Ross I think you misunderstood me... this industry is defiantly going through a bad patch and I believe will be the case for at least a few years to come as the economy is in a very bad way and agree with all you said... but my point was lowering the prices will not get more punters in the door it will just attract the wrong kind of people... the truth is there is still people who have a need to have sex and have money.. but whilst the hard times are ahead there just wont be everyone else splurging and throwing money around so by advertising and promoting yourself more you have a lot more of a successful chance to pick up the guys who still need our services..

To say you will just get the wrong kind of people if you reduce prices is just a myth. Langtress already attracts the obnoxious drunks in the early hours and whoever comes through the door you have the right of approval or not anyway.
Stop trying to kid yourself on this issue! Pricing for any product or service is based on supply and demand. The sad truth is right now there is a lot of supply and demand is well down. Face the reality

 

[Madam Tracey]

The economy is not good at the moment and does not inspire confidence and consumer spending.
Maryanne was well aware of this some months ago when she encouraged the ladies to include more free extras
in their service...(each ladies service, extras and included free extras is outlined under PRICING on each individual ladies profile). So, the standard service becomes a deluxe service. By value adding hopefully both parties win. Effectively the lady has discounted her price and the client gets more for his money!
Maryanne was also upset by some girls charging outrageous extras to clients (with their personal short term agendas in mind and screwing it for the long term business and the other ladies)....TRANSPARENCY in the pricing. No nasty surprises.

 

[ross89]

What about a "Happy Hour " say from 5pm - 8pm and charge say $350 instead of $400.

What do clients and ladies think of that for an idea? Could maybe generate some extra business.
PS I can do the maths 5 - 8 = 3 hours (not 1 happy hour)

I might be wrong, however i don't think $50 is enough to make the average punter rush down? I think it would have to be $300 tops and even then you wouldn't want to be charging extras for basic services. I think if you were to do a serious thread on asking what the punters want, 90% would say cheaper prices.

Tinder (don't ignore this..) and the economy will continue to drive demand down I think. It sucks for your livelihood but many of the lads who come in are in the exact same situation. My livelihood also depends on getting people to spend money and it's never been tougher.

 

[Madam Tracey]

Most clients want the most and pay the least....thats in any business.

 

[bushseeker]

To say you will just get the wrong kind of people if you reduce prices is just a myth. Langtress already attracts the obnoxious drunks in the early hours and whoever comes through the door you have the right of approval or not anyway.
Stop trying to kid yourself on this issue! Pricing for any product or service is based on supply and demand. The sad truth is right now there is a lot of supply and demand is well down. Face the reality

absolutely... fact is $400 ph pluss extras is at least $100 more than you can get a better time elsewhere.
to think differently is kidding yourself.
locanto. back page etc.. once you sort past the asian maffia drivel can provide far better bang for your buck

 

[Madam Tracey]

absolutely... fact is $400 ph pluss extras is at least $100 more than you can get a better time elsewhere.
to think differently is kidding yourself.
locanto. back page etc.. once you sort past the asian maffia drivel can provide far better bang for your buck

I guess it just depends what you are after.
You can go for dinner at Jacksons or McDonalds....end result you get fed at both places. You get more bang for your buck at McDonalds....in fact Jacksons would be wasted on many people.
We are all different ...sometimes I just want to be fed...other times I want a dining experience.

 

[ross89]

I've dined at Rockpool twice and thought it was pretty ordinary for the money...

Just because a girl charges $400, doesn't mean she's any better than a girl charging $200

 

[funflyer]

I guess it just depends what you are after.
You can go for dinner at Jacksons or McDonalds....end result you get fed at both places. You get more bang for your buck at McDonalds....in fact Jacksons would be wasted on many people.
We are all different ...sometimes I just want to be fed...other times I want a dining experience.

Don't assume that others cannot offer equal or better service. I travel in Asia a lot and there are many smaller, intimate so called 3* hotels that provide a far better service than their 5* cousins. I'm staying in a great one right now. Could be the same principle with other sorts of establishments