Our mighty Police Force

[Master Yoda]

A friend of mine caught up with me and told me that the day before yesterday he had someone trying to break into his house for a robbery while he was home. So he called the police. He gave the address and what was going on and was asked a bunch more questions and did not give the needed instant response. They eventually turned up and was too late obviously.

Couple of days later he was disturbed again. Same thing happened. Now my friend is fearing for his own safety. He was told by the mighty WA police force that he should just disappear for a while. They were no help!!!!

Yet we see so so many of them on the roads KEEPING US SAFE or RAISING REVENUE so diligently.........


What is their priority?


If my point if view is warped someone set me straight. But I no longer trust the police force to protect and serve. But I am certain that they are there to get me on the road for something.

Any opinions........???

 

[Adrianna Lush]

I think Yoda is my long lost twin. ..we share the same opinion on the WA piggies

 

[Ginger Spice]

gahhhh.... So damn true.

 

[Anastacia]

Yes, in Eastern Europe people worked it out.... People don't go to court for any reasons, there is no trust to that system, so people break legs to you if you don't pay loan. And if someone still your car etc... People go to mafia leaders, rather than police. You pay and it's all fixed. Would you like that in WA?-))))

 

[DDxoxo]

AHHHHH Anastasia you are such a dramatic lady........Love that in you!

 

[Farm Boy 2]

A friend of mine caught up with me and told me that the day before yesterday he had someone trying to break into his house for a robbery while he was home. So he called the police. He gave the address and what was going on and was asked a bunch more questions and did not give the needed instant response. They eventually turned up and was too late obviously.

Couple of days later he was disturbed again. Same thing happened. Now my friend is fearing for his own safety. He was told by the mighty WA police force that he should just disappear for a while. They were no help!!!!

Yet we see so so many of them on the roads KEEPING US SAFE or RAISING REVENUE so diligently.........


What is their priority?


If my point if view is warped someone set me straight. But I no longer trust the police force to protect and serve. But I am certain that they are there to get me on the road for something.

Any opinions........???

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Next time there a Intruder ring the Cops and say Someone has broking in to my house and I fired a waning shot and accidental shot HER the cops will come .

 

[Master Yoda]

Next time there a Intruder ring the Cops and say Someone has broking in to my house and I fired a waning shot and accidental shot HER the cops will come .

Think that has actually happened and the caller got charged.

Oh and tonight a bunch of guys approached the property so my friend left the house and called the police. When they arrived they accused him of having mental problems and was making it up.....

 

[downsouth]

Unfortunately the police have no power to belt people that deserve it & when they do make an arrest they get no support from the courts system.
When we're in trouble they're the first people we call but we're very quick to critisise them.

As for revenue raising on the roads- I'm protesting against speeding fines by doing the designated speed limit on the road I'm driving.
Not getting any money outta me the buggers.
Pretty simple.

 

[Raye@Langtrees]

A friend of mine caught up with me and told me that the day before yesterday he had someone trying to break into his house for a robbery while he was home. So he called the police. He gave the address and what was going on and was asked a bunch more questions and did not give the needed instant response. They eventually turned up and was too late obviously.

Couple of days later he was disturbed again. Same thing happened. Now my friend is fearing for his own safety. He was told by the mighty WA police force that he should just disappear for a while. They were no help!!!!

Yet we see so so many of them on the roads KEEPING US SAFE or RAISING REVENUE so diligently.........


What is their priority?


If my point if view is warped someone set me straight. But I no longer trust the police force to protect and serve. But I am certain that they are there to get me on the road for something.

Any opinions........???

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Wow Yoda thats hard core......

think this is a priority!!!!!!!!

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[pause78]

I'd love to steal a donut van one day and have multiple police cars pursue me. The TV footage from the Channel 9 chopper would be *awesome*. Cop cars chasing down a donut van, who wouldn't want to see that?

 

[Tania Admin]

I have a few friends in the police force and they really have a hard job, it's not easy for them to switch off from a lot of the horror they have to deal with on a daily basis. It's a job I couldn't do.
It sucks that your friends situation was handled badly but we can't tar them all with the same brush. A world without Police would be disasterous.

 

[oz-surfer]

Couldn't agree more with you Tania.

There is no harder job. No system or resource is perfect. There is a limited budget they work within, more dollars would mean a better service. Of course there is also a very small minority of cops who shouldn't be cops - and they are constantly trying to weed those out.

Politics and corruption play a role, but what influential group in any country in the world do these factors not play a role?

Slagging cops is such an easy thing to do - but those who do I have no doubt could not do the job.

I would suggest when you step back and consider what is going on in the world, that we're pretty dam lucky to have the law and order that we do in little old Perth.

 

[Master Yoda]

I agree.....cops are needed.....so many of us wish for their assistance for small, desperate and urgent matters. Yet a cold hard fact is that most of them are issuing traffic fines while others are screaming out for them while in danger to have them not show up.


And yes there are many great cops, I know some myself. But what good are they when they are concentrated at speed traps or searching hard for people speeding 5km over or answering their phone?

 

[asianguy77]

Unfortunately the reality is break ins are so rife nowadays, that the resources are not there to deal with it. Even if they attend the premises after the home break-ins the chances of catching the culprit is not good, and it just becomes more added paperwork to deal with.

 

[Master Yoda]

Once upon a time when I was a wee lad, police presence was made known where it was needed. But nowadays, dollars from drivers is where the presence is.

Its hardly the fault of the good officers. What they do comes from way above them....

 

[Dallas]

I totally agree with you Yoda, I've had to call the police on a couple of occasions for issues where I live and was told there was no police available yet down on the highway a few hundred metres away was a police car issuing speeding fines. I friend of mine who's a NSW cop says that in the morning briefings they are basically given a quota and while there is a road safety component to it, it's primarily revenue raising. I think the really unfair aspect to it is that someone on minimum income could pay a week's wages in one fine, then someone else who's on a much higher income would only have to pay a few minutes with of their income. If it's really about road safety then the system suggests that the more wealthy you are the less of a penalty you need to teach you a lesson

 

[Master Yoda]

I totally agree with you Yoda, I've had to call the police on a couple of occasions for issues where I live and was told there was no police available yet down on the highway a few hundred metres away was a police car issuing speeding fines. I friend of mine who's a NSW cop says that in the morning briefings they are basically given a quota and while there is a road safety component to it, it's primarily revenue raising. I think the really unfair aspect to it is that someone on minimum income could pay a week's wages in one fine, then someone else who's on a much higher income would only have to pay a few minutes with of their income. If it's really about road safety then the system suggests that the more wealthy you are the less of a penalty you need to teach you a lesson

And hence if is often no fault of the good people on the front line. But it is hard to say that officers are not influenced to take pride in issuing fines and enjoying the process.

 

[Tania Admin]

Most cameras are not manned by police officers and driving while on the phone and texting is extremely dangerous, I'm glad they are targeting this,,and drink drivers scare the crap out of me..Police answer to those higher up the chain just like any other job they need to do as they are told.

 

[Smoggy]

In the first instance you have to protect yourself and your property. Securing doors and good quality window shutters are a start. Then an alarm and security cameras that you can monitor if you are away from home. I also have two large dogs and it would be a mistake to break into my property as they are territorial.

As somebody who works shifts I have seen so many drunk drivers and driving through red lights at night is much more common than people think. Another problem I see virtually every night are taxi drivers wandering all over the road as they are dozing off behind the wheel.

The Police are influenced by their political masters thats a fact. But they have some truly awful jobs at times and I sympathize with them for that. Perhaps if they could reduce the amount of paperwork they do they could be in the front line longer.

 

[oz-surfer]

Isn't it obvious.

Police are there to serve and protect, and do this on a "risk basis". What is the biggest risk and has the highest impact on our community? Road accidents by a country mile.

Therefore a large portion of the limited resource they have is directed to the traffic department.

Revenue raising? From pepole who think they are above the law by believing they can speed or do other so called minor discretions that others manage to recognise and abide to? I say great. Raise revenue from those idiots and take less of my hard earnered.

 

[Masonary]

I agree.....cops are needed.....so many of us wish for their assistance for small, desperate and urgent matters. Yet a cold hard fact is that most of them are issuing traffic fines while others are screaming out for them while in danger to have them not show up.


And yes there are many great cops, I know some myself. But what good are they when they are concentrated at speed traps or searching hard for people speeding 5km over or answering their phone?

Traffic cops deal with traffic matters. Not all cops. Just traffic. If there is a specific operation to deal with traffic related offences and more cops are needed then they will pull resources but that is all.

People who assume all cops would rather issue speeding tickets than do 'real work' need to calm down

 

[Master Yoda]

Traffic cops deal with traffic matters. Not all cops. Just traffic. If there is a specific operation to deal with traffic related offences and more cops are needed then they will pull resources but that is all.

People who assume all cops would rather issue speeding tickets than do 'real work' need to calm down

There is no assumption that cops get to choose what they do on a beat. I don't believe they have the power to do that. But if they did....it would be interesting to observe whether they take the easy way out.

The point is that the powers that be that delegates where taxed resources are used seem to have a LOT more of it stinging drivers than serving the public, upholding the law, and protecting the innocent.


On a side note the friend of mine that originally inspired this thread has gone to the police several times after his car, credit cards, work laptop and a whole of other stuff was taken by force after a break in. The police say they can do nothing other than report his car stolen.

And paperwork? Yes that must be true. Even a production line in a tampon factory needs to have forms filled in before beginning and ending any procedure and an incident report must be filled in if someone farts in the wrong direction.

Bureaucracy has been a quick way to create jobs out of unnecessary admin in many government and and private organisations.

But none of all this replaces or encourages integrity among people. Once upon a time, people gave their word and they were good for it.

 

[Masonary]

I have a few friends who are police officers. None of them enjoy giving out traffic tickets and if given the option working in traffic would be the last place they'd want to be. They all enjoy working 'the beat' in their areas. General duties or frontline policing as they call it. Sure maybe when they are too old to be scaling fences, fighting drunks and dealing with domestic violence they would prefer to have a less risky job. But then again a lot of the traffic guys who issue tickets do so because they're sick of scraping dead bodies off roads.

Normal people who go about there normal days only really see police when they are in a traffic situation. So they assume that's all police do. Or as you've suggested, people just assume that all of the polices resources are spent on issuing traffic infringements. It simply couldn't be further from the truth.

Based in what you've said about your friend, he has been dealt with in an inefficient manner and he deserves better. That's for sure.

But give the police a break. Their job as a whole sucks and they don't get paid enough to do it.

 

[Tania Admin]

Here Here ^^^^^^^^^^ Well said Ron!

 

[Master Yoda]

I have a few friends who are police officers. None of them enjoy giving out traffic tickets and if given the option working in traffic would be the last place they'd want to be. They all enjoy working 'the beat' in their areas. General duties or frontline policing as they call it. Sure maybe when they are too old to be scaling fences, fighting drunks and dealing with domestic violence they would prefer to have a less risky job. But then again a lot of the traffic guys who issue tickets do so because they're sick of scraping dead bodies off roads.

Normal people who go about there normal days only really see police when they are in a traffic situation. So they assume that's all police do. Or as you've suggested, people just assume that all of the polices resources are spent on issuing traffic infringements. It simply couldn't be further from the truth.

Based in what you've said about your friend, he has been dealt with in an inefficient manner and he deserves better. That's for sure.

But give the police a break. Their job as a whole sucks and they don't get paid enough to do it.

I agree... the good officers deserve better just as teachers and nurses do. Yet it is a widespread experience that. We don't see them when we need them urgently and sometimes when our safety is threatened. Yet there is a huge delegation to be on the roads stinging and reaping.

 

[happytimes]

guess that would depend on what police your referring to as well, not just traffic cops? Leave it at that!!!!!!!!

 

[Faith Moana]

AHHHHH Anastasia you are such a dramatic lady........Love that in you!

naw i miss yu dd

 

[happytimes]

Yes, in Eastern Europe people worked it out.... People don't go to court for any reasons, there is no trust to that system, so people break legs to you if you don't pay loan. And if someone still your car etc... People go to mafia leaders, rather than police. You pay and it's all fixed. Would you like that in WA?-)))) View attachment 17060

if you think that doesnt happen in OZ then you haven't been around too many places.

 

[homer]

I think the Police Commissioner handed down an ultimatum that bothers him so much that increase policing in this area is so needed and necessary. That is, *drum roll*, distracted drivers using their phone while driving. Just last week, 2 coppers on bikes, yes 2 of them one behind the other, ridding their high horseys along the emergency stopping lane, looking into everyone's car, checking for offenders of non-seatbelters, phone users...and what the hell else they're looking for.

So to answer your question, $ talks in a big way. B$ kinda rides on bikes. But hey when it's double demerits season, you will see them in flocks, aka booze bus, speed cameras, radars ,etc...They are fighting crime the hard way...yep dipping their hands into people's hard earned $.

Burglary is just burglary as long as no one gets hurt.

 

[Ambergreen]

we had to catch a serial intruder on camera before they would act