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Ladies - are you worth getting your drink spiked?

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Classy nightclub (not). In The West Australian online.

Rapture Nightclub slammed over response to drink spike claim
Peta Rasdien and Phil HickeyThe West Australian
Monday, 7 October 2019 9:51AM

Shantel Smith approached Rapture Nightclub with her claim that her drink was spiked, but it is their response which has created a wave of outrage.
Shantel Smith approached Rapture Nightclub with her claim that her drink was spiked, but it is their response which has created a wave of outrage. Credit: Instagram/shantelsmith

A Perth nightclub has been slammed for its heartless response to a woman’s claim that her drink was drugged, asking if she was “worth” someone spiking her drink.
In a post circulating widely across Facebook and Twitter, a private message from Shantel Smith to the club a week after she claimed her drink was spiked, the former Newman College student suggested the nightclub increase its security.
But it is club manager Neil Scott’s response that has incensed people across social media and sparked calls for the club to be shut down.
In a screenshot of a private message, he asked: “What proof do you have of your drink being spiked. Why would anyone want to spike your drink?”
“Did you attend a hospital and have your stomach pumped for evidence? Is this something you and your friends experience regularly? Would you like a crowd controller to hold your drink the next time you attend a nightclub?
“Do you think ten crowd controllers would be able to stop you having your drink spiked? Are you worth someone trying to spike your drink?
“We think this is a beat up and we believe that no one would be stupid enough to waste their drugs on spiking anyone’s drink.”
The message circulating on Facebook
The message circulating on Facebook Credit: Facebook
Mr Scott admitted on ABC radio this morning that he could have worded his response better but continued to rubbish Ms Smith’s claims that her drink was spiked.
“We had 14 staff on duty, at no time did any of the staff hear about a drink being spiked,” Mr Scott said.
“She attended the nightclub for two hours and 55 minutes, she arrived at 10.58pm…and then she came out at 2.53am.
“There was no chance that she had a drink spiked, it was just an 18-year-old girl being silly.
Mr Scott said when Ms Smith left the nightclub at 2.53am, she stood outside for another eight minutes with her friends dancing in front of the nightclub and then walked off.
“It was just absolute rubbish that she had her drink spiked, there was no chance,” Mr Scott said.
Mr Scott said his response was tongue-in-cheek.
“She decided to post it and of course it’s gone viral,” he said.
“I guess that in this instance it was wrong, but nevertheless it’s been done now it can’t be taken back.”
Ms Smith has drawn support across social media.
Ms Smith has drawn support across social media.
The online run-in has triggered a sharp backlash with the nightclub’s Facebook page overrun with angry comments.
A change.org petition which calls for the nightclub to be shut down has attracted around 8000 signatures.
“We believe that this venue has failed to represent the values or the interests of the people of Perth. We are asking for this venue to be closed down and turned into either a shelter for the homeless or a women's refuge,” Trent Young, who started the petition wrote.
Ms Smith said the club’s response was “absolutely disgusting” and urged people to avoid the club at all costs.
She said she had only two to three drinks before she arrived at the club, she bought one drink at the bar and was “unconscious for the next 2.5 hours” vomiting and experiencing other symptoms common to a date rape drug.
“Luckily I have good friends who were looking after me but not everyone can be that lucky.”
Women’s Interests Minister Simone McGurk said some of Mr Scott’s comments about the incident had been disappointing.
“I think at the very least a nightclub owner … needs to give patrons the benefit of the doubt and understand the particular responsibility they’ve got to look after the welfare of their patrons,” she said.
“I think she deserves to have her claim investigated, I’ve had women come and see me in my electorate office who are concerned they have had their drink spiked.
“It is actually quite difficult to get the matter investigated in that you don’t realise until sometime after that might be what had occurred.”
On Monday morning a police spokeswoman said: “At this time the woman has not reported the incident to police.”
 
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Gotta luv the ammo chosen for this report.
“What proof do you have of your drink being spiked. Why would anyone want to spike your drink?”
“Did you attend a hospital and have your stomach pumped for evidence? Is this something you and your friends experience regularly? Would you like a crowd controller to hold your drink the next time you attend a nightclub?
“Do you think ten crowd controllers would be able to stop you having your drink spiked? Are you worth someone trying to spike your drink?

No proof or methods to get proof. Yet 1 bad comment and Bam I got you with that 1 line, time to blow this onto the media to get my justice. Just goes to show 1 bad comment can get you or your company sued or bad reputation. It should be the person spiking the drink to suffer not the club owner, your drink your responsibility.

She got her message across, damage done.
“At this time the woman has not reported the incident to police.”
 

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The nightclub's "are you worth..." line is objectionable certainly but I do wonder why this lady took a week to put it on the internet and why she didn't go see a doctor or the police or the nightclub about it earlier.

If someone tried to poison you, wouldn't you go to the cops right away or even a day or two? Let the cops look at security cameras etc earlier?
 

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Yes, and I probably wouldn't get lucky but certainly wouldn't resort to spiking her drinks are asking a stupid question like whether her drink's worth spiking Ivor.
 

Terti

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You have to be very aware of putting down your drink . You need to keep watch , these ppl who spike drinks are very good at it and very quick too.
 

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Interesting article in today's Sunday Times (which isn't a credible newspaper). The reporter claims the nightclub's been renamed by several clubgoers as "Rape ture".

The Sunday Times
MY NIGHT OUT AT RAPTURE NIGHTCLUB
Teenager’s drink-spiking claim keeps punters away
  • 13 Oct 2019
  • SARAH STEGER
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Police outside Rapture nightclub on Friday night.
It’s just before 10pm on Friday night — an hour after the Northbridge club is meant to have opened.
Among the small crowd of people waiting are three men dressed in black — presumably undercover police embroiled in the drink-spiking saga that unfolded at Rapture this week after Perth teenager Shantel Smith posted a screenshot of Rapture owner Neil Scott's message to her in response to her claims she had her drink spiked.
Among the small crowd of people waiting are three men dressed in black — presumably undercover police embroiled in the drink-spiking saga that unfolded at Rapture this week after Perth teenager Shantel Smith posted a screenshot of Rapture owner Neil Scott's message to her in response to her claims she had her drink spiked.
His message, in which he questioned whether she was “worth” being drugged, quickly went viral, sparking a petition to shut down Rapture and prompting about 20 people to protest outside the venue at 9pm on Friday.
It is the latter that has undoubtedly delayed things at the club on Friday night and drew two more police officers, on bikes, to oversee the opening.
Mr Scott refused to back down on Friday, telling 7NEWS: “I’m not sorry and I don't regret it . . . the woman wasn’t attractive, particularly, and she was a bit overweight but that wasn’t what it was about.”
We can finally enter and our IDs are scanned by two security guards and our wrists stamped.
A quick photo posted to Instagram as we go in only validates our nerves.
There are two social media tags to choose from when checking in at the club — Rapture Nightclub or “Rape-ture Nightclub”.
Once inside, smoke machines, flashing lights and a blood-pumping tune fail to distract from the fact that Rapture is dead.
There are fewer than 15 people here.
At the bar we’re faced with a tough decision — a neon glowing drinks menu overhead making the choice that much harder.
Do we want a drink called a “Quick f---.” or a “Hard on”?
Despite how appetising they sound, we opt for the standard vodka lime and soda and make our way to the couches positioned underneath a TV on which runway models in G-string bikinis are catwalking.
Despite how appetising they sound, we opt for the standard vodka lime and soda and make our way to the couches positioned underneath a TV on which runway models in G-string bikinis are catwalking.
At 10.27pm Usher starts screaming “Yeah” through the speakers and a pack of clubbers flocks to the dance floor. Two young girls play pool across the room, either oblivious or uncaring of the two lone men watching from their armchairs nearby. “There might be free drugs in that drink,” a man jokes to me, pointing at my vodka lime and soda.
Two girls in the bathroom say they have chosen not to boycott because they’ve “always been treated really well” at Rapture.
Two girls in the bathroom say they have chosen not to boycott because they’ve “always been treated really well” at Rapture.
“The owner could’ve responded better to the girl’s claims but in theend, he did review the footage,” one of them says.
By 11.10pm there’s fewer than 20 people here.
A couple of men sipping on bright blue vodka drinks offer to play pool with us, prompting a punter I don’t know to pat me on the back several times and tell me how important it is that I focus on the game at hand, and not him.
At 11.30pm my friend walks over to me as I pick up my drink.
At 11.30pm my friend walks over to me as I pick up my drink.
It’s been unattended for several minutes.
“Don’t drink that. I just turned around and he (one of the men playing pool) had his hand stuck in my drink,” she says.
“I don’t know what he was doing but his hand was in the drink.
“Three ice cubes spilled over the side.”
The Sunday Times does not allege nor is it implying this was a drink-spiking incident.
At 11.45pm while the crowd has doubled back up to about 40-50 people, we decide it is time to leave. This is as busy as it was going to get.
 
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Terti

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Interesting article in today's Sunday Times (which isn't a credible newspaper). The reporter claims the nightclub's been renamed by several clubgoers as "Rape ture".

The Sunday Times
MY NIGHT OUT AT RAPTURE NIGHTCLUB
Teenager’s drink-spiking claim keeps punters away
  • 13 Oct 2019
  • SARAH STEGER
img
Police outside Rapture nightclub on Friday night.
It’s just before 10pm on Friday night — an hour after the Northbridge club is meant to have opened.
Among the small crowd of people waiting are three men dressed in black — presumably undercover police embroiled in the drink-spiking saga that unfolded at Rapture this week after Perth teenager Shantel Smith posted a screenshot of Rapture owner Neil Scott's message to her in response to her claims she had her drink spiked.
Among the small crowd of people waiting are three men dressed in black — presumably undercover police embroiled in the drink-spiking saga that unfolded at Rapture this week after Perth teenager Shantel Smith posted a screenshot of Rapture owner Neil Scott's message to her in response to her claims she had her drink spiked.
His message, in which he questioned whether she was “worth” being drugged, quickly went viral, sparking a petition to shut down Rapture and prompting about 20 people to protest outside the venue at 9pm on Friday.
It is the latter that has undoubtedly delayed things at the club on Friday night and drew two more police officers, on bikes, to oversee the opening.
Mr Scott refused to back down on Friday, telling 7NEWS: “I’m not sorry and I don't regret it . . . the woman wasn’t attractive, particularly, and she was a bit overweight but that wasn’t what it was about.”
We can finally enter and our IDs are scanned by two security guards and our wrists stamped.
A quick photo posted to Instagram as we go in only validates our nerves.
There are two social media tags to choose from when checking in at the club — Rapture Nightclub or “Rape-ture Nightclub”.
Once inside, smoke machines, flashing lights and a blood-pumping tune fail to distract from the fact that Rapture is dead.
There are fewer than 15 people here.
At the bar we’re faced with a tough decision — a neon glowing drinks menu overhead making the choice that much harder.
Do we want a drink called a “Quick f---.” or a “Hard on”?
Despite how appetising they sound, we opt for the standard vodka lime and soda and make our way to the couches positioned underneath a TV on which runway models in G-string bikinis are catwalking.
Despite how appetising they sound, we opt for the standard vodka lime and soda and make our way to the couches positioned underneath a TV on which runway models in G-string bikinis are catwalking.
At 10.27pm Usher starts screaming “Yeah” through the speakers and a pack of clubbers flocks to the dance floor. Two young girls play pool across the room, either oblivious or uncaring of the two lone men watching from their armchairs nearby. “There might be free drugs in that drink,” a man jokes to me, pointing at my vodka lime and soda.
Two girls in the bathroom say they have chosen not to boycott because they’ve “always been treated really well” at Rapture.
Two girls in the bathroom say they have chosen not to boycott because they’ve “always been treated really well” at Rapture.
“The owner could’ve responded better to the girl’s claims but in theend, he did review the footage,” one of them says.
By 11.10pm there’s fewer than 20 people here.
A couple of men sipping on bright blue vodka drinks offer to play pool with us, prompting a punter I don’t know to pat me on the back several times and tell me how important it is that I focus on the game at hand, and not him.
At 11.30pm my friend walks over to me as I pick up my drink.
At 11.30pm my friend walks over to me as I pick up my drink.
It’s been unattended for several minutes.
“Don’t drink that. I just turned around and he (one of the men playing pool) had his hand stuck in my drink,” she says.
“I don’t know what he was doing but his hand was in the drink.
“Three ice cubes spilled over the side.”
The Sunday Times does not allege nor is it implying this was a drink-spiking incident.
At 11.45pm while the crowd has doubled back up to about 40-50 people, we decide it is time to leave. This is as busy as it was going to get.
Correct on the Sunday times misquote things a lot
 

Miss Carra

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There was no compassion at all in his reply.
What if it was his daughter, he’d be kicking off then! Even if he didn’t believe her that is a disgusting response. Show some empathy for a lady who’s had a shit time
 

Phoebe

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Night clubs a place invented by men to get beautiful women drunk so men have a chance with them to get laid, Brothels a place invented by men so as if The Night club plan fails this is your plan B.... Maybe by pass plan A and head straight for plan B, because thats where many of a man that started at plan A ended up anyways.
 

Goodstuff36 Bon truc in french

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Rarely go to night clubs never except drinks from stragers always keep my eyes on my drink no ice preference in fact I spend all my time in my undies watching TV and drinks from my fridge
 
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Ciao Baby

I used to work behind the bar at a pub on the coast in a small holiday town.
It had been a busy night & the next day I was sitting at the bar eating lunch when a not overly attractive lass who woulda been easier 2 go over than around impolitely interrupted & informed me non too politely that her drink had been spiked the previous night. I looked up from my steak sandwich, took a swig of my beer & uttered one word... Why?
Later that nite I found out she had complained about me 2 the publican & in between fits of laughter he finally managed 2 splutter that I really need 2 complete a course in customer relations 🤭
 

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Best night clubs in Perth:

Berlin
James Street Night club
 

Farm Boy 2

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Come on guys! Seriously though - would you really want to make a move on her in a pub? :vomit:
If the rolled up one night at my farm with a block of beer and six pizza's she would be most welcome to stay , I think she has three things going for her, she is Female , a Adult and attractive.
 

Phoebe

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If the rolled up one night at my farm with a block of beer and six pizza's she would be most welcome to stay , I think she has three things going for her, she is Female , a Adult and attractive.

If she rocked up to my farm with the same I would say thanks for the food and drink, and leave the gates as you found em on the way out... and here's a tip. Be good to you mum.
 
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Ciao Baby

On the subject of drink spiking...
Every morning I used 2 drink a cup of tea but I would always get a sharp stabbing pain in my left eye.
It went on 4 quite awhile so I went 2 see my doctor.
I explained the problem & he replied try removing the spoon b4 u drink it 🤪
 

Farm Boy 2

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Phoebe I think you have masturbated many times while fantasising about women less attractive than Shantel Smith .
 
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