Job Hunting

[Zeus]

Has anybody recently tried to get a job - using a recruitment agent?

Is it just me or would you agree that these people (recruitment agents) are absolutely useless and not worth a cup of cold p1ss?

1. Do these fuc^&* idiots ever get back to one? How many messages does one have to leave before one gets a return call?
2. Why do these c#nts advertise a job without indicating how much the job pays and then insist that one submits an application BEFORE they discuss any details of the job with you?
3. Why the f#ck do recruiters advertise when they know they’re hiring internally.

As you can probably tell, I am fairly passionate about this subject.
I would like to hear other forum members views on this.

 

[Rudyboy]

I had the gross misfortune of having to try and find a job a couple of years ago. I have a very good CV and tons of experience but can tell you I felt exactly the same way dealing with those clowns.

Then I finally got to chat with two of them. I wouldn't have given them a job cleaning my dunny!

 

[Happy2]

I think I can see why the few bosses I do know would rather a person door knock and or put their own ads in the local rag instead of go through an agency

You hear of too many employment agents who are so below par

Who remembers the old days It was the CES or you found the job yourself

 

[Locoman]

I changed companies with the same position I held and had to deal with a Recruitment Agency it was the worst experience I can remember. The over riding concept seems to be how you deal with other people, I was asked consistently on conflict resolution and employee interaction not many questions on my ability to fulfil the duties of the position.

I did like the old days if you presented well and had half a brain they gave you a go and no dealing with plonkers!

 

[Nateeee]

The problem with recruitment companies is the bombardment of applications they get each day and the lack of jobs going. The good ones will send an automated response saying you missed out. The bad ones just done care.

It's all about amount of time spent on filling the position vs the kickback from the company.

A good friend of mine is in recruitment and at the moment there's so many applications they literally can't assess them all.

They even have programs that screen for spelling and grammar errors before they personally see the applications. Guess what happens to those applications with any errors

 

[Dallas]

Has anybody recently tried to get a job - using a recruitment agent?

Is it just me or would you agree that these people (recruitment agents) are absolutely useless and not worth a cup of cold p1ss?

1. Do these fuc^&* idiots ever get back to one? How many messages does one have to leave before one gets a return call?
2. Why do these c#nts advertise a job without indicating how much the job pays and then insist that one submits an application BEFORE they discuss any details of the job with you?
3. Why the f#ck do recruiters advertise when they know they’re hiring internally.

As you can probably tell, I am fairly passionate about this subject.
I would like to hear other forum members views on this.

No you're right they are useless. I never had a problem getting a job until I got past 40 and then it's become progressively harder. The job before last took me 76 applications and my current job took me 122 applications. I get an interview by lying about my age on the application, limiting my skills to appeaer I've only been in the job market for a few years... ie I'm about 30, then when I get to the interview and they're shocked as I'm as old as them, I try and sell myself and my youthful exuberance as best as I can.

Joe Hockey wants us to work until we're 80.. he's f****ing insane. He needs to sell this to the employers not to the job seekers. I know of at least one large global employer near me that has a policy of not considering anyone over 40.

I registered for about 15 local recruitment agencies and I only got three phone calls in a year, and they were for jobs that I was not qualified for.

Yes they have all these insane rules about trying to get you to apply for a job without telling you anything about the job.

The last agency I was with rang me up and sent me to an interview with "a secret" client. I mean WTF? couldn't tell me anything about the job. So I get to the interview and I was so embarrassed as I had absolutely no experience in the field to which they sent me.

How do they make any money to stay in business?

My dream is to be an Escort, but I'm the wrong age and wrong sex. I have total admiration for a w/l that can avoid all this crap for low wages and do what she does and manage it well.

 

[Xtraman]

I am employing a few people atm
The employment companies send me their resume's and I go through them.

It is very important to put what you can in that resume. It is what attracts the reader to think about an interview.

Many people slip by because they didnt click with the reader.
I often pick people that normally wouldnt meet the first cut.

This week I will start 2 people that excelled in their interview but had a shit resume

XM

 

[Dallas]

I am employing a few people atm
The employment companies send me their resume's and I go through them.

It is very important to put what you can in that resume. It is what attracts the reader to think about an interview.

Many people slip by because they didnt click with the reader.
I often pick people that normally wouldnt meet the first cut.

This week I will start 2 people that excelled in their interview but had a shit resume

XM

I like what you said about what you put in the resume. What I find is that I have so much I can put in, it's really too much for most people. But with employment agencies I can't really taylor it to the job requirements as I don't get to see those, and they just submit my resume in full detail and the employer has to wade through it to find what they're looking for.

 

[Rochelle]

Oh yes....don't start me on those people. ABSOLUTELY useless. That was approximately 2 years before I started in the adult industry. Same as RudyBoy......tons of experience in the service industry, all the necessary papers.....one interview with the agent (took ages....all the details they wanted to know) and then never ever heard a single word. I did find a job as the service industry always requires employees but on my own account. Agencies are only time wasters and paper pushers.

 

[Farm Boy 2]

Thérèse Rein /təˈreɪz ˈreɪn/[1] (born 17 July 1958) is an Australian entrepreneur and founder of Ingeus, an international employment and business psychology services company.
Rein is the wife of Kevin Rudd, who was the Prime Minister of Australia, holding the office from 2007 to 2010 and then again in 2013. She was the first Australian Prime Minister's wife to remain in the paid workforce while her husband was in office.[2] She was awarded the Human Rights Medal by the Australian Human Rights Commission in December 2010 for her long-term dedication to human rights, especially the rights of people with disability. In December 2012 she was awarded an Honorary Doctorate for her services to busines

 

[Farm Boy 2]

THERESE Rein’s status as one of Australia’s richest women has been cemented with the sale of her job services company, Ingeus, to a US employment firm in a deal with worth up to $220million ($US205.7m).
Ms Rein, the wife of former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, founded Ingeus in 1989 to help sick and disabled people return to work.
Arizona-based Providence Service Corporation this morning announced it would pay $US58 million in cash for the company, plus another $US23.7 million in cash and stock over four years.
It will also pay a further $US124 million if the company hits certain targets over the following five years.

 

[Happy2]

Thérèse Rein /təˈreɪz ˈreɪn/[1] (born 17 July 1958) is an Australian entrepreneur and founder of Ingeus, an international employment and business psychology services company.
Rein is the wife of Kevin Rudd, who was the Prime Minister of Australia, holding the office from 2007 to 2010 and then again in 2013. She was the first Australian Prime Minister's wife to remain in the paid workforce while her husband was in office.[2] She was awarded the Human Rights Medal by the Australian Human Rights Commission in December 2010 for her long-term dedication to human rights, especially the rights of people with disability. In December 2012 she was awarded an Honorary Doctorate for her services to busines

I wonder if she got first dibs at all the unemployed Australians who lost jobs during her Hubby's reign as PM

 

[homer]

Recruitment agents have been like this for yonkers years. You are precious to them when they think you are a potential candidate, they will keep in contact with ya. Once your use by date is gone, your as good as hay...well at least hay has better value.

I've applied for jobs via many recruit agents and most just wanted to meet and greet. As far as job prospect? None has come my way. Maybe I am under qualified, ok I am. Most jobs I went for interview and unsuccessful, never heard from them again. Not even an email telling moi, I'm a loser.

Recently applied for a job, unfortunately via recruitment agent, I tried to present myself as a keen candidate, called and emailed this knobhead, no reply, nada, zilch. Hence, one can conclude that recruitment agents are pretty much blowhole variety.

The only recruitment agent that I had fond memory of was one lady, who arranged a meeting at a cafe and bought me coffee. Though I never did get a job through her, but she kept in touch. Friendly and warm person.

 

[svengali]

Yep. Those recruitment agency stories tally with my experience. When I was 40 I realised I was going nowhere in my present (clerical/Management) field and started looking around. The vibe I got from most of the agencies I spoke to was that unless you were a graduate from the Dale Carnegie school of smarm with that yuppie attitude they weren't interested and over 40? Forget it! Centrelink (whatever it was called back then) was similarly useless.
No use answering job ads in the paper either - they follow the same pattern.

The only job leads I got were the ones I dug up myself so eventually I gave it up and bought my own business in a field where I had no previous experience. Not usually recommended but I got away with it and ran that business for 20 odd years before selling it as a going concern and retiring.

 

[Happy2]

Good for you Svengali That would have taken some balls