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Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
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Please excuse the lack of paragraphing. Androids are not the best with word processing. And using mobile devices here is a tad awkward.


A past affection (not very deep) is seeking advice while hoping to hear me say what she wants to hear. I'll tell her story. Then I will share some of my past that demonstrates why and how I understand her story. Then I will end this post with a question.Here is a 29 year old girl who hooked up with a 20 year old boy. No problems there. They were into each other in a big way and all was well.

For 9 months noone hears from them. Lately I get random messages of distress from the girl about her growing anger, fear and insecurity. She shared that when she and her boy met he already has a long term girlfriend back home. But.....the love is gone and he wants to break up. Just not yet because it might hurt her too much. so he had to be given time. Once in a while she would send me messages when she was overwhelmed from knowing that she was the third wheel. She told me they would often fight about this which results in an ultimatum of her boy handing her the phone and telling her to call his long term girlfriend and break the news herself if it was that important to her. To which she back down with her tail between her legs. Months grind on and I get these calls and messages once in a while telling the same stories but with no intentions to rectify anything. As a friend I just listened. I have learned by now that most women just wanna have a whinge but does not want any solutions. This morning I get a message at 5.30 am asking me to put her up for a couple of days as she wants to leave him and she has nowhere to go. She showed me that in this time she was so fixated on doing as he pleased she had noone to turn to as noone else was in her life anymore. I asked why........she said she had a look at his phone and he and his real girlfriend are clearly not going to break up.I gently told her to stop being dramatic as she has always known that and put up with it. And that you'll change your mind in 2 hours. I left it like that.This afternoon shes talking to me again. As expected justifying anyway she can that she should stay with him and then calling herself a loser.....etc. I listened and listened. And eventually expressed that look its your choice. You have the answer. But I can share something with you. And see if you get anything out of it. Before I did though I did have to make clear that what this girl and I had before is in the past. I did not tell her this part but I have lost my respect for her while watching her put herself through this. Yet I cared like I care for people.Here's the part where I told her why I may understand where I am coming from........Not long ago I myself was very addicted to a very toxic and destructive relationship. It left me in the worst state that a man can inflict on himself. It was my choice at the time and I blame noone. What made me feel better was seeing girls on the side. Not one.....but 3 non wl. To 2 of them I told them I have a partner and nothing would eventuate relationship wise so take it or leave it. To the other I simply just lied. They took away the pain and loneliness and betrayal from my partner that I placed as number one. I treated these 3 girls like queens when I was with them. And used the power of words to keep them intrigued. Needless to say I hurt all 3 of them quite deeply and they are no longer in my life. That is my own doing. And I will never treat another like that.But back to the story..... I told my troubled friend that I understand why her boy may be this. Perhaps he is lonely and really misses his true love. But in the mean time here is a very attractive girl that tends to his every need from sex to snacks and is totally into him. And even buys his stories. That is very addictive. I'm sure he cares for his girl companion at many levels. Just like how I liked those 3 extra girlfriends on the side very much because they were beautiful people. But most of all they were very good for me and looked after my every need and took away all the pain temporarily. But when it came to a choice between my one and only. They were just extras that served a purpose. I know that if I truly felt the big L word for any of them I would let go of my partner at the time and gave myself to one of them.I only told my distressed friend the story to illustrate that these situations are not planned. But they do happen and get out of hand. And fear of loss turns to selfishness. I did not tell her what to do as she was still justifying how he is good in some ways and appreciated that he shows rage when he is jealous. Frankly. .... it's for her to work out. She ain't gonna hear shit until shes ready to hear anything. Even if I was wanting to say something I wouldn't quite know what to say. I discipline myself to not think or stress myself over other people's matterd. Yet I care. But hey...... her journey is for her to discover. Anyone open to giving their point of view. Particularly any ladies that can offer anything for my learning sake? --Sent from Fast notepadSent from my smartphone on the new Vodafone network
 
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colzilla

Some people lead very complicated lives... Time to uncomplicated things
 

svengali

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Yep; a sad story but an old one. Your friend is being used and is wasting her emotions on a relationship which is going nowhere. She will wake up eventually and, hopefully, learn something from it.
 

Langtrees VIP Perth 3

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Master Yoda you are a good friend that has made mistakes yourself and know how hard a toxic relationship can be to escape.
As a good friend you listen, wait and pick up the pieces when it turns to shit. Your friend will need you in a very short time. Her world will implode and a friend is what she will need xx
 

bushseeker

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For women men are like peak hour busses .. there's always alot of tgem. They come often and I theres plenty to choose from.
Telk her to stop whining like a litte girl and jump on another she only has herself to blame for her innaction on her situation
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
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[qThank="Vivien@Langtrees, post: 221858, member: 34914"]Master Yoda you are a good friend that has made mistakes yourself and know how hard a toxic relationship can be to escape.
As a good friend you listen, wait and pick up the pieces when it turns to shit. Your friend will need you in a very short time. Her world will implode and a friend is what she will need xx[/quote]


Thank you Vivienne. That is exactly what I believe will happen. And staying cheerful and strong and standing by when this friend is in need is exactly what I intend to do.
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
Legend Member
Points
56
For women men are like peak hour busses .. there's always alot of tgem. They come often and I theres plenty to choose from.
Telk her to stop whining like a litte girl and jump on another she only has herself to blame for her innaction on her situation

I totally agree. She needs to reassess and readjust. Yet her sense of judgement maybe as fucked up as mine was when I was stuck in an u fortunate relationship. So I cannot judge her.
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
Legend Member
Points
56
Yep; a sad story but an old one. Your friend is being used and is wasting her emotions on a relationship which is going nowhere. She will wake up eventually and, hopefully, learn something from it.
Her thing with this boy turning to shit is inevitable you are right. But whether she learns is up to her I guess.
 

homer

Doh!
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I don't and still don't understand why these girls are the way they are. I have had friends in abusive relationships and remained that way for a long time. But i guess it is easy for an observer to tell them to cut it and get off the relationship. I guess we can't just pass judgement to something we don't have full understanding to. It is really up to her to make her own decision. Like you said you can only listen and offer some advice but don't get involved, it is too messy.
 
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colzilla

Because the poor little things are insecure and a have low self esteem.

Remember everyone else is just as average as you are.
 

bushbabe

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Ahh Master Yoda...... long time no hear........ wondered if your travels had taken you elsewhere.
Sad it is your situation........ sadder still for the girl trying to hang onto beliefs. Do not tire yourself too much as knots get harder to undo as time marches on....... and only time will heal.
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
Legend Member
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[quotis why ="bushbabe, post: 222084, member: 21863"]Ahh Master Yoda...... long time no hear........ wondered if your travels had taken you elsewhere.
Sad it is your situation........ sadder still for the girl trying to hang onto beliefs. Do not tire yourself too much as knots get harder to undo as time marches on....... and only time will heal.[/quote]
That is why I remain unattached and just be there if I am called upon.
 

homer

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Well Master Yoda, wot can i say. Your a leg end. *bow* My lady luck is as good as my lotto luck. :rolleyes:
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
Legend Member
Points
56
Well Homer....kind of you. Legends inspire lasting stories. I just tell the stories.

If I was a legend. I'd wouldn't have to miss them. As they'd still be there :)
 
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