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How do you define???

billybones

Thrillseeker
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Times are tough and times are hard...

So how do you define or measure someone`s success??
Is it because they drive a top of the range car or live in a 2 storey house that they may never own?
Is it having lots of money sitting in the bank?
If something you planned, didn`t work out the way you thought it would is it still a success because you know you put as much energy into it as you possibly could?

What makes someone successful to you??
 

viper

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I have heard from many sports folk that success leaves clues. To measure success look at the clues. In other words it is the journey not the end result success is not finite it is on going and has many variables and different definitions to many people.
 
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Tania Admin

Success in my eyes is based on personal fulfillment, being comfortable with who you are, not being lazy, happiness, knowing your a good person with values, morals and having good friends who appreciate you for being you.
 

Sensual ~ Vanessa

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So many successful people have commited suicide...what good is the success if you don't have peace or hang around to enjoy it :)
 
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Tania Admin

So many successful people have commited suicide...what good is the success if you don't have peace or hang around to enjoy it :)

I think that defines the fact that maybe they were only successful in a materialistic way, not in the ways of what our thoughts are on true success...
 

letsplay26

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Liberty=positive and negative freedoms; so the only constraint on one's positive duty to act is the negative freedom of someone esle; therein lies the answer to the question.
 
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plumber

I think success can be defined as being a good law abiding person who has bought up a happy contented family. Normally you will find that these people have many friends, and a load of acquaintances. It certainly not defined by their material wealth or their fake persona........ they normally appear........ normal!!
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
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Tall or short
High or low
Left or right
Right or wrong
Big or small
Fast or slow
Rich or poor
Heavy or light


Like 'success', these are only relative to whatever is countering them. And also each can have infinite contexts depending on the situation. So to say these are defined measurements is an illusion.

How ever, these relatives and others assist us in understanding the physical world around us by putting things into perspective.

These are just my thoughts when I am less influenced by everyday life. Wish I can be like this all the time :)
 
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Alecia the Foxx

Hard to say. People can be absolute losers at one level, however very successful at other levels.
 
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Tania Admin

I think success can be defined as being a good law abiding person who has bought up a happy contented family. Normally you will find that these people have many friends, and a load of acquaintances. It certainly not defined by their material wealth or their fake persona........ they normally appear........ normal!!


Hmmm I fit all of the above, I think anyway,,,though am not so sure about appearing normal lol
 

stevell

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Success is living another day,and not knowing what the next day will bring...and the next.
 
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JasRob

I think before succeeding in whatever goals you want to achieve first you have to accept that fact that you may fail at first and if you don't succeed at first it doesn't mean it will be forever a failure...Here's something about success and this is true for me -- "Would you like me to give you a formula for success? It's quite simple, really. Double your rate of failure. You are thinking of failure as the enemy of success. But it isn't at all. You can be discouraged by failure or you can learn from it, So go ahead and make mistakes. Make all you can. Because remember that's where you will find success."
- Thomas J. Watson
 
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teddEbear

I think before succeeding in whatever goals you want to achieve first you have to accept that fact that you may fail at first and if you don't succeed at first it doesn't mean it will be forever a failure...Here's something about success and this is true for me -- "Would you like me to give you a formula for success? It's quite simple, really. Double your rate of failure. You are thinking of failure as the enemy of success. But it isn't at all. You can be discouraged by failure or you can learn from it, So go ahead and make mistakes. Make all you can. Because remember that's where you will find success."
- Thomas J. Watson

Wise words J.R. To me success is being able to do things you want to do and that's being financially free....hopefully by the time I'm 45 but we all know things don't always happen as we plan. To be able to give freely of yourself and to be the best person you can be. To be respected amongst your peers and family. To be able to see beauty in all things and every situation..... Those are the things I aspire to. Wish me luck.... I'm gonna need it
 
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Perth boy

Happyness .

Ok sorry I was in a rush this morning.

Success has nothing to do with money AT ALL.

In my life I have very close freinds with lots of money now im talking the type of people that find it normal to go and spend 3 or 4 mil on a holiday house , 1k on a bottle of wine or a 100k on a holiday. I also have many very good friends on the other side of town. I got to say my happiest freinds are the ones that dont have money.
I also spend a lot of my time in Asia with people that have nothing. Guess what they are the happiest people I know. So if we are talking success as in being happy within yourself its got nothing to do with money or what you have.

Now if you have both money and you are happy in your life well thats a differant story but from what I have expirenced in life it just dont happen. Well not much.

Success is someone that is 100 percent happy within themself. I will be thire one day!! lol
 

stevell

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Ok sorry I was in a rush this morning.

Success has nothing to do with money AT ALL.

In my life I have very close freinds with lots of money now im talking the type of people that find it normal to go and spend 3 or 4 mil on a holiday house , 1k on a bottle of wine or a 100k on a holiday. I also have many very good friends on the other side of town. I got to say my happiest freinds are the ones that dont have money.
I also spend a lot of my time in Asia with people that have nothing. Guess what they are the happiest people I know. So if we are talking success as in being happy within yourself its got nothing to do with money or what you have.

Now if you have both money and you are happy in your life well thats a differant story but from what I have expirenced in life it just dont happen. Well not much.

Success is someone that is 100 percent happy within themself. I will be thire one day!! lol


I totally agree with you Perth boy,I used to have a lot of money,and of course with that came "friends",but in about 5yrs of going hard,I had no money no friends,and was living in Hospital.
It was after about 9 months of observing all the other people that had no chance at all,I finally worked it out.
You are your own God and no matter how bad things are, there will allways be someone in a worse situation.
 
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teddEbear

I really don't see why people think you have to choose between having money and being happy. I don't look at a homeless person and think to myself "gee, they're happy" In my opinion being poor sucks waaaaay worse than being well off. I agree that money can't buy happiness... I just think that it enables you to do what you want to do. The way I see it is there's a whole lot of mulah in the world and I'm working to get my share. Anyway I digress. Success.... Achieving your personal goals.
 
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WRXXXR

There is a big difference between having some sort financial freedom and living week to week, complaining about the price of everything.

I don't believe people in the 2nd group are overly happy or all too successful in their life. They'll tell you they are but having a half decent financial backing removes a lot of stresses. Particularly once they hit late 20's / early 30's.
 
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Alecia the Foxx

I do agree with you, TeddyBear. I don't think that having money and being happy are mutually exclusive. In fact, I see poverty as not particularly conducive to happiness. But worshipping money is not the way to happiness either. Think "balance" ...
 
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colbb123

Tall or short
High or low
Left or right
Right or wrong
Big or small
Fast or slow
Rich or poor
Heavy or light


Like 'success', these are only relative to whatever is countering them. And also each can have infinite contexts depending on the situation. So to say these are defined measurements is an illusion.

How ever, these relatives and others assist us in understanding the physical world around us by putting things into perspective.

These are just my thoughts when I am less influenced by everyday life. Wish I can be like this all the time :)

I'm wondering, after reading your post here if in fact you are the mind reader lol (apologies all, private joke I guess). Articulated your thoughts are Master Yoda. Valid I believe your thoughts to be.

If a person who is homeless with no worldly possesions actively searches for food and finds an apple tree have they been successful? Are they successful? Do they feel they have been successful? Relativity is an important key. I would think this person had been successful because he tried, also because he achieved his goal.

Ultimately, I believe this person IS successful because they value their life enough to do what ever needs to be done in order to keep it.


BTW....does anyone else have another program open solely for using it as a spell checker for these posts? lol
 
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Naughty Thoughts

BTW....does anyone else have another program open solely for using it as a spell checker for these posts?

Which browser are you using? I use Firefox, and it has a built-in spellchecker (though sometimes I still need to teach it what the right words are). Chrome also has a built-in spell checker, or can have one added on as an extension.

But yes, I used to do that back in the day - have a document open and type my posts in there to check spelling before posting. I can't stand posts that "r riten lik dis"! Half the point of making a post is to communicate, so why make it harder? I can understand mistakes like mixing up your and you're, at least then the intention can be inferred from the context.
 
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colbb123

I use Firefox as well but have only recenty converted from Internet Explorer 9 (finally caved, pleasantly surprised). Thanks for letting me know. I'll have a look at the Firefox settings as it's likely to be the usual case of the right box not being ticked.

it ting lik this dat u no, get on 1s' nervz (hey I even managed to 'pluralise' rather than abbreviate 'one'. Pehaps there are two or more of me.....)
 
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