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Fooled by a sociopath

Justbe:)

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It was almost a year ago that this person (whom I had 'known well' previously for two years), up and left.
She left the state, her partner, her house, her car, her debts, her career and the few 'friends' she had made here.
She did so without explanation to anyone, including family.
She did take her young son.

From what she had told us all over here in her 'WA life', she had one friend over east, a family to turn to if she needed support, and an ex, a heroin user/dealer. This ex (her words), would forbid her from leaving their house and shot up in front of their son. She left him only after he had kidnapped their son as punishment for her trying to leave the house one day. He could not be arrested or charged as he is the father and claimed she had made it all up.Nice guy hey?
This all happened a few years ago, before she met a new man and moved to WA.

Back to one year ago - she's headed back east.
Fiance is deeply concerned. I imagine her family is also concerned, as am I.

Then.....Relief!! - she let's me know she's ok, just a messy break up, she is staying with family. PHEW!
I was relieved that she had found the strength to leave her current partner who (in her convincing words) had been becoming more and more controlling.

My first contact with her family followed.
A simple message expressing how glad I was that she was ok, and happy she was getting to spend some time with them again.

The response I got made my heart sink. Her family had not seen her.

Then contact from her 'controlling partner'. This was ok.
Anyway he had also just been thrown in to turmoil. He'd been given the same ''staying with family'' story and the same conflicting information as me. So WTF?

Months go by, trust is slowly built between me, her family and her now, ex partner.
A healthy distance was and has been kept, but we had all clearly been lied to - we wanted to know enough to be able to at least make sense of it all.

Nine months after she left, we learn the disturbing truth.
This person is not the person any of us thought she was / is.

TRUTH:
Almost one year ago she needed money, lots of money. She had dealers chasing her and she had exhausted all options in WA to pay them back. Shock 1) Sad, but she is a drug addict.

Shock 2) Her ex from whom she escaped from years earlier (true or not), has a house and money and drugs. She goes back to him, and by now, will have had his baby.

Shock 3) Previously to her leaving WA, she had instructed her family not to talk to, or listen to anything I may say as I am severely mentally unstable. Two months earlier she had given her mother my details. I was her choice of contact person over here should the need arise. Quite the change of heart there.

I got off lightly. I can't imagine the pain and trauma left in the heart and mind of her fiance, who was left with her debts, the heartbreak of losing (or never actually having) the loving partner he thought he had. He lost her son who he had taken in as his own. And he was painted by her as a money hungry, controlling monster to her family.

Her lies caught up with her. She knew if any of us talked, all her stories and lies would be uncovered.

While I hoped she had been unfortunate just this once, backed in to a corner and felt trapped and desperate, the last thing I now know is that this is just who she is, it is what she does. She has been this person her whole life.
She is a compulsive liar. Despite being very intelligent, she lives in a world where tangled webs eventually get noticed at which point - time to move on.

I feel no anger toward her now, and it has all settled in my mind. I don't regret the day we met, I hold on to the belief that at least some of the closeness we shared was real- it hasn't stopped me listening to people, or even believing them. It has certainly humbled me another notch though.......

..............it has reinforced my belief that....

Considering how little we understand ourselves, believing we can understand others' motivation for their actions from a primarily emotionally driven, humanistic way in which we perceive the world is, I think, naive as hell.
Therefore, if our judgements of others results in negativity of any kind, it is wasted energy.

So long as we keep a healthy awareness that none of us are selfless, we may as well accept that we rarely know for sure why people do the things they do, I see no harm in believing that people are just trying to get by while causing as little harm to anyone else as they can.


Shite I had a point.....now it's gone.
Sorry all ;)
 
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nightrider

It was almost a year ago that this person (whom I had 'known well' previously for two years), up and left.
She left the state, her partner, her house, her car, her debts, her career and the few 'friends' she had made here.
She did so without explanation to anyone, including family.
She did take her young son.

From what she had told us all over here in her 'WA life', she had one friend over east, a family to turn to if she needed support, and an ex, a heroin user/dealer. This ex (her words), would forbid her from leaving their house and shot up in front of their son. She left him only after he had kidnapped their son as punishment for her trying to leave the house one day. He could not be arrested or charged as he is the father and claimed she had made it all up.Nice guy hey?
This all happened a few years ago, before she met a new man and moved to WA.

Back to one year ago - she's headed back east.
Fiance is deeply concerned. I imagine her family is also concerned, as am I.

Then.....Relief!! - she let's me know she's ok, just a messy break up, she is staying with family. PHEW!
I was relieved that she had found the strength to leave her current partner who (in her convincing words) had been becoming more and more controlling.

My first contact with her family followed.
A simple message expressing how glad I was that she was ok, and happy she was getting to spend some time with them again.

The response I got made my heart sink. Her family had not seen her.

Then contact from her 'controlling partner'. This was ok.
Anyway he had also just been thrown in to turmoil. He'd been given the same ''staying with family'' story and the same conflicting information as me. So WTF?

Months go by, trust is slowly built between me, her family and her now, ex partner.
A healthy distance was and has been kept, but we had all clearly been lied to - we wanted to know enough to be able to at least make sense of it all.

Nine months after she left, we learn the disturbing truth.
This person is not the person any of us thought she was / is.

TRUTH:
Almost one year ago she needed money, lots of money. She had dealers chasing her and she had exhausted all options in WA to pay them back. Shock 1) Sad, but she is a drug addict.

Shock 2) Her ex from whom she escaped from years earlier (true or not), has a house and money and drugs. She goes back to him, and by now, will have had his baby.

Shock 3) Previously to her leaving WA, she had instructed her family not to talk to, or listen to anything I may say as I am severely mentally unstable. Two months earlier she had given her mother my details. I was her choice of contact person over here should the need arise. Quite the change of heart there.

I got off lightly. I can't imagine the pain and trauma left in the heart and mind of her fiance, who was left with her debts, the heartbreak of losing (or never actually having) the loving partner he thought he had. He lost her son who he had taken in as his own. And he was painted by her as a money hungry, controlling monster to her family.

Her lies caught up with her. She knew if any of us talked, all her stories and lies would be uncovered.

While I hoped she had been unfortunate just this once, backed in to a corner and felt trapped and desperate, the last thing I now know is that this is just who she is, it is what she does. She has been this person her whole life.
She is a compulsive liar. Despite being very intelligent, she lives in a world where tangled webs eventually get noticed at which point - time to move on.

I feel no anger toward her now, and it has all settled in my mind. I don't regret the day we met, I hold on to the belief that at least some of the closeness we shared was real- it hasn't stopped me listening to people, or even believing them. It has certainly humbled me another notch though.......

..............it has reinforced my belief that....

Considering how little we understand ourselves, believing we can understand others' motivation for their actions from a primarily emotionally driven, humanistic way in which we perceive the world is, I think, naive as hell.
Therefore, if our judgements of others results in negativity of any kind, it is wasted energy.

So long as we keep a healthy awareness that none of us are selfless, we may as well accept that we rarely know for sure why people do the things they do, I see no harm in believing that people are just trying to get by while causing as little harm to anyone else as they can.


Shite I had a point.....now it's gone.
Sorry all ;)
Sad but very common story mate, dunno why you named your thread "fooled by a sociopath" though?
You got lied to by a junkie, they will lie steal and manipulate friends and family cos the drug is their life....
I've been in your shoes, there's nothing you could have done to make it turn out different, she's on a self destruct path....
 

sunyun

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So long as we keep a healthy awareness that none of us are selfless, we may as well accept that we rarely know for sure why people do the things they do, I see no harm in believing that people are just trying to get by while causing as little harm to anyone else as they can.


Shite I had a point.....now it's gone.
Sorry all ;)



Hey JB,

Don't apologize !

This is one of the best things about this forum - its a place to let it all out.

Point or no point, getting it all off your chest is worth its weight in gold.

If you had gone to a shrink, he would have asked you to tell him the whole story (as you just did), then charged you a shitload of money.

If you had gone to confession, the priest would have listened then gone off and had his wicked way with the alter-boy.

On this forum, we are all adults (its an adult forum!!), and applaud you for what you have been through and survived.

Well done on getting it all out. Now you can start the effort to move on.

Best of luck !
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
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Hello friend......

Hope you are holding up despite all this.......

I won't comment on your story or give an opinion as it is not needed.

Yet I commend you for the fact that you have gone through heart break, turmoil, infinite worry, and an unwelcome sense of being lied to and betrayed by someone you care about..........and still hold no anger. You are amazing.


Trust me I know what that feels like. And to me....no anger does not mean no hurt. But for that part I speak for myself.


Regards

Yoda
 

Justbe:)

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Thanks all for your comments. I worked in a rehab clinic for a year, partly why I was so surprised at not seeing the signs earlier. Addiction is addiction is addiction, drugs, sex, crosswords...whatever...the extent of the impact on people's lives is huge as they succumb to the (all too often) devastating effects of being owned by their addiction. Horrible bloody thing, addiction -

The term 'sociopath' : True, I'm not qualified to say whether or not she is. I think she is. I'm relieved she is no longer a part of this community here in WA. She had a massive following over here, built on her ability to deceive others as to who she really is for an impressive amount of time. If she were still here I would be torn whether or not I should burst so many bubbles.

Master Yoda - my friend, you (as per usual ;) ) hit a nail on the head .......''no anger does not mean no hurt''.

Snap!

Good to hear from you :)

Thanks guys, onward and upward!
 

johnlou

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hi Justb:) : i to have been in this same situation. and all you can do is let her run the path she wants to and when she falls over , be their to pick her up and let her go on her merry way . the only person who can help her is her son . that might never happen .

sit back.
 

Justbe:)

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Yep. I used to frequent that back seat, but I no longer travel on that bus. I'm on the bus I should be on again and I can't tell you how fortunate I feel.

On a brighter note - It's great being back on this forum, I have missed it!

Looking forward to posting something which will expose my dry, warped and twisted sense of humour and seeing who remembers me ;)

..may be a dark joke, without the assistance of emoticons.

BTW, I'm sure ''humour'' has a ''u'' in it - we're not in the states!
 

DDxoxo

Live, Love & Believe
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I read your post &
yes there are always lessons to be learnt in life......
You cannot control what happens to you sometimes, what people say about you...
but you can control your attitude towards what happens to you !

Remember Karma also comes back somehow to those who inflict harm on others!
 
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Lord Spikey

Justbe

I read your story and feel so sad that there really are people like this in the world. I am so happy and so fortunate to have been barely touched by this lifestyle. Having never used drugs, apart from the obligatory try of dope in my teens, I also fail to recognize the addiction in others. Call that naivety or call it innocence. However, although I have been spared, I have been aware that there are many people who, for many reasons do get hooked on illicit substances. The trainwreck they then call their lives definitely causes collateral damage and the saddest part of that is the damage to their children.

We are all adults, as has been stated and we could possibly understand these people to a degree, but children: no. How can they possibly understand the intricacies of an addiction. Children trust their parents implicitly. They look up to them as shining examples of how to live a good life. Then the children learn.

It makes me feel better to know that you will survive this, as will the new ex fiance. You will both grow and move on. Please keep peace in your heart. This too will pass.
 

Justbe:)

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I hear you there and it was the thoughts of this poor little tacker's life I found the saddest. He is such a gorgeous kid too. Hearing she was about to bring another life in to her world.....oooohhh......that was too much selfishness for me and at that point I realised it was time for me to completely remove myself from this person.
Two things helped me - 1) at least the kids will have each other.
2) I prayed a for all of them.
 
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