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Euthanasia

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Al Swearengen

[/COLOR]THE euthanasia group headed by "doctor death" Philip Nitschke, is appointing a travel agent to organise trips for Australians planning to end their lives overseas.
Twelve Australians have died at the Swiss Digitas euthanasia clinic, but three more - from Melbourne, Hobart and Darwin - are preparing to make the trip.

Dr Nitschke, director of Exit International, said the the Swiss clinic - the only such centre open to foreigners - was "meticulous" in the documents it required from the seriously ill, but most didn't have the health or time to organise the trip themselves.

"They need medical records to explain how sick they are, proof of residence, passports and certified extracts of birth certificates," Dr Nitschke said.

"People who are that ill, if they are thinking of making this journey, it's a lot of work and almost impossible for them. They also need supportive letters from family members."

The service will cost about $1000.

Melbourne's Jay Franklin is preparing to travel to Switzerland, despite knowing the drugs used could leave him more ill than he already is.

The 36-year-old lives in constant pain from a congenital bowel disease and has had more than 100 operations since he was eight days old.

But his doctors won't tell him if his damaged digestive system can fully absorb the barbiturate Nembutal or whether he will be left in a vegetative state.

"The hospital seems to be putting every conceivable obstacle in his way," Dr Nitschke said.

"It has to be explained to them that what he's doing is not illegal.

"It's quite legal to go to Switzerland.

"It's a long trip and they're extremely sick, so it's another clear reason why this issue needs to be dealt with in a more humane way."[/I]


Euthanasia's been an issue for decades. Periodically, it appears publicly and then disappears again. Its a tricky issue.
What are people's thoughts here on euthanasia?
 

Dallas

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I agree with HP.

But if Euthanasia is illegal and lack of sex is killing me, then shouldn't the Government pay for my trips to LT's to keep me alive?
 

Happy2

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It is a very personal choice And it is your life But it seems that it is so open to abuse Where is the line drawn about who and when is the decision to be made Only the person wanting to leave this world peacefully , or his direct family , the doctor, the hospital
There was the sad story in in Europe ,in one of the countries with euthanasia where a family wanted to euthanase their daughter who was born blind ,
And of course the story involving our own Dr Nitschke Where he provided the wherewithal all to a woman who was in great distress She passed peacefully granted But post mortem diagnosed the woman with a twisted bowel Something totally treatable
 

svengali

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Euthanasia will only be allowed in this country when we finally shake off the mental shackles imposed by generations of misguided religious bigotry.

One day politicians will start listening to their electors and responding to their wishes instead of ruling over them but don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
 

billybones

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To whoever makes the choice it would have to be very hard but my question is this, when he mentions direct family who is that exactly?
Is it the mother or father?, the children? or the wife or husband?

I`m not even strong enough to put down a sick animal so hopefully it`s a choice I will never have to make.
 

homer

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screw Euthanasia, death by sex is my choice...lol...bring on the w/l's...
 
C

Contrarian

Who knows? As the world's population escalates and the world's environment deteriorates, governments may give incentives and tax rebates for people above a certain birth date permission to expire and cremate! It could be our fate, mate!
 

Dallas

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I'm with you homer, although I've tried already but I find what doesn't kill me makes me stronger :)
 

Dallas

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Yep, the idea being trapped in a bed in a hospital or nursing home where I can't practice the three SSS's (surfing, swimming, sex), that will be the day I book Angel and Sabrina to finish me off, they could probably just text me - that would do it lol!
 

homer

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I'm with you homer, although I've tried already but I find what doesn't kill me makes me stronger :)

lol...as they say, what doesn't kill ya, makes you stronger...so keep on soldier on boy...you be A ok...
 

HappyPirate

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Ahouy My Bro;- there was a movie made that explored the idea of mankind needs, it was called Soylent Green[video=youtube_share;SVpN312hYgU]http://youtu.be/SVpN312hYgU[/video]

Who knows? As the world's population escalates and the world's environment deteriorates, governments may give incentives and tax rebates for people above a certain birth date permission to expire and cremate! It could be our fate, mate!
 

Happy2

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Yep, the idea being trapped in a bed in a hospital or nursing home where I can't practice the three SSS's (surfing, swimming, sex), that will be the day I book Angel and Sabrina to finish me off, they could probably just text me - that would do it lol!

Only two SS's left eh Dallas You did mention surfing is now in decline Not long to go now
 
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colzilla

Bit cold to be going surfing. My nuts are shrinking just thinking about it.
 

Dallas

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Perth surf is so warm at the moment that a wetsuit isn't needed. The SA coast is freezing by comparison.

If surfing is in decline then that leaves more waves for me :)
 
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colzilla

Maybe I should get a hobby that doesn't involve porn, hookers or strippers.
 

Happy2

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Now that the thread has lightened in tone What do you think of Euthinasia? "I dont mind youth in Asia as long as they stay there"
Cant remember you said it but I liked it just because it was a off the cuff remark
 

Dallas

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Now that the thread has lightened in tone What do you think of Euthinasia? "I dont mind youth in Asia as long as they stay there"
Cant remember you said it but I liked it just because it was a off the cuff remark

Well the lighter tone is probably my fault, I tend to bring people down to my immature level :) Since we're on that, I am still working out if these protesters are being funny or just bad spellers

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colzilla

Young Kayleigh called me "Old timer" once... She got a smack bottom for that.
 

Rochelle

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As soon as I can't wipe my own arse.... I'm outta here.

mmmmmmm might be to late by then.....guess you have to get in there before you can't wipe your own arse.........the big question: when to pull the plug? I do believe people should have the right to decide if they want to suffer through a deadly desease or not.


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Langtrees VIP Perth 3

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There should be a system when you can make a decision while you are of sound body and mind. I am a believer in euthanasia and would like to have the choice xx
 
C

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This is interesting because I worked at a hospice once and it allowed people to die in dignity. Many people who speak of Euthanasia are usually in great pain and confined to bed. But with so many hospice places now - the patient functions quite normally unless bed ridden or in a coma. Even then their dignity is maintained, they are bathed, washed, fed, medicated and don't feel pain because they're given strong painkillers.

One of the most rewarding moments in my life was when I held a dying woman's hand. All her kids had predeceased her as had her siblings. We talked for a bit, we both knew the time was imminent. I held her hand 'til the end but the last thing she said before she closed her eyes was; "thank you for looking after me". Of course when the last few minutes were imminent I called the doctor and nurse in attendance but they couldn't revive her and she was pronounced gone.

I can't believe it, it's been some years now and I've tears as I write this. So in a way I'm not in favour of Euthanasia so much as I'm in favour of more money spent on hospice care and dying in dignity and living in dignity and painlessly.
 
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