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Does something like this make you lose confidence in the future of our police force?

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Today's papers.

WA Police engulfed by sexism and bullying allegations at Joondalup academy, new union report shows

Phil Hickey and Daryna Zadvirna The West Australian
Sat, 22 October 2022 5:00AM


An explosive report has lifted the lid on a culture of alleged bullying and sexism at the WA Police Academy, which is being blamed for driving some recruits out of the force. (Officers pictured are not involved in the allegations).An explosive report has lifted the lid on a culture of alleged bullying and sexism at the WA Police Academy, which is being blamed for driving some recruits out of the force. (Officers pictured are not involved in the allegations). Credit: The West Australian
An explosive report has lifted the lid on a culture of alleged bullying and sexism at the WA Police Academy, which is being blamed for driving some recruits out of the force.
The West Australian can reveal the disturbing allegations are contained in a WA Police Union report and is based on a survey of 135 ex-officers and recruits who resigned between January and June this year.
Several former recruits claim they were driven to quit their dream jobs due to harassment and bullying and sexist behaviour at the Joondalup academy.

“The culture at the Police Academy was beyond unreasonable in my experience,” one ex-recruit said in the 21 page report.

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“The treatment of recruits included bullying, belittling, bastardisation on a personal level, humiliation, and unreasonable expectations.
“Sexism and harassment are a very real part of the academy culture.”
A second recruit stated male recruits were “pushed much harder” than women recruits during their time with the operational safety and tactics training unit (OSTTU).

Thanks to the vile attitudes and toxic culture of the personnel I had to work with, my dream had to end.
“I was almost asphyxiated during the wrestling part of determination day by the instructor,” the recruit said, adding: “Female recruits were barely touched by instructors in OSTTU, whilst I got a black eye blood nose and split lip.”
Another recruit noted they had to go on sick leave due to “ongoing bullying that occurred at the academy.”

The report also found “dissatisfaction with WA Police Force management and culture” was the primary factor for the 135 officers resigning, with more than 76 per cent selecting it as a reason.
“Let it be known that this was my dream. To serve the WA community with integrity and honour,” another officer who quit stated in the report.


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“Thanks to the vile attitudes and toxic culture of the personnel I had to work with, my dream had to end.”
After being provided with the bullying and sexism allegations contained in the report, Police Minister Paul Papalia told The West: “Police have told us they have no knowledge of these matters. If someone does have a complaint I urge them to report it so appropriate action can be taken”.
WA Police also confirmed late yesterday it had no information about the academy related allegations.
“WA Police Force has received no reports of the matters highlighted ... however, if further information came to light, these matters would be investigated,” a force spokesperson said, adding: “Any employee who experiences inappropriate behaviour, including while training as a recruit, is encouraged to come forward.
“WA Police Force has adopted a strong stance against inappropriate workplace behaviours and penalties for officers found guilty of this misconduct can including dismissal.”

WA Police Union 85th Annual Conference at Parmelia Hilton Hotel Acting President Mick Kelly. Picture: Kelsey ReidWA Police Union boss Mick Kelly. Credit: Kelsey Reid/The West Australian
But WA Police Union boss Mick Kelly said the findings in the report should spark the State Government to “take seriously the problem of police officers resigning from the Western Australia Police Force” and said the claims around sexism and bullying should be investigated.
“We’ve heard from numerous police employees who’ve complained about poor treatment including bullying and sexual harassment,” Mr Kelly said.
“We encourage anyone who feels as though they’ve been a victim to report any incidents and for the police hierarchy to judiciously investigate these matters.”
The report comes after The West Australian revealed on Wednesday how a male officer in charge of a police station who allegedly groped the chest of a woman colleague — a breast cancer survivor — was among dozens of cops booted out of the force in the past financial year.

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The senior policeman, who quit before his dismissal could be finalised, was one of 44 officers given a referral for “loss of confidence” — the most serious form of punishment which ultimately results in dismissal.
He was apprehended after the disturbing incident earlier this year which involved an female officer who had undergone a double mastectomy.

The West revealed how the number of police hit with serious internal sanctions more than doubled during 2021-22, with WA Police vowing to crack down on sexual misconduct and family violence perpetrators within the force.
A number of allegations involving police officers sexually assaulting colleagues had also been investigated by the force in the past two years.
In an interview with The West Australian earlier this week Deputy Commissioner Kylie Whitley denied there were widespread issues of harassment in the force, but said bullying was among the issues police were cracking down on.
“We don’t see any systemic themes of harassment or you know, inappropriate comments or behaviours in any particular parts (of the agency),” she said.
“There are sometimes individual complaints.
“We will continue to make sure our workplace provides the best opportunity for our police officers to do the job that they’re employed to do which is to keep the community safe.

“Part of that is making sure it’s free from any bullying, harassment, sexual misconduct, or any family violence related misconduct.”
 

Master Yoda

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The system is not ideal. And the police force is an integral part of this system. I give my best not to begrudge police officers. They may be the most heavily affected victims of the system that do not realise what anything of it means.
 

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Not everything in the media is accurate or if accurate then embellished greater than what it really is.

There is hazing in most workplaces that has been around for time immemorial, some quite severe, but in large most professions have good people doing difficult jobs.

I’ve seen the human side of policing and know they are ordinary people doing an extraordinary job, witnessing some pretty extreme circumstances that the general public are oblivious to.

I was in service, not police service, so understand some of the dynamics of what goes on, I also know that if the media doesn’t get the story they want they’ll embellish the story they want the public to absorb. I’ve witnessed media manipulation firsthand to the point I can’t watch the news as it irritates me.

Many people have told me I should write a book but it’s too hard given that some details just can’t be said without breaching confidentiality of citizens, especially in small communities.

Take some stories, dial them back a bit then realise not everything the media feeds people is accurate.
 

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That's nothing Vic police won't take statements or co operate in anyway steal all your property off you until you go to church with premier Dan Andrews and his creepy wife kathern and sing church hymns.
 
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Not everything in the media is accurate or if accurate then embellished greater than what it really is.

There is hazing in most workplaces that has been around for time immemorial, some quite severe, but in large most professions have good people doing difficult jobs.

I’ve seen the human side of policing and know they are ordinary people doing an extraordinary job, witnessing some pretty extreme circumstances that the general public are oblivious to.

I was in service, not police service, so understand some of the dynamics of what goes on, I also know that if the media doesn’t get the story they want they’ll embellish the story they want the public to absorb. I’ve witnessed media manipulation firsthand to the point I can’t watch the news as it irritates me.

Many people have told me I should write a book but it’s too hard given that some details just can’t be said without breaching confidentiality of citizens, especially in small communities.

Take some stories, dial them back a bit then realise not everything the media feeds people is accurate.
I agree with what you've said BUT I do wonder... if it's inaccurate why is no one suing the papers? If it's inaccurate, why isn't the police union coming out and say it isn't so? And finally if it's inaccurate why is the Police saying "however, if further information came to light,".

Why wait for further information? Why not start digging for information?
 

WildBrumby

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I agree with what you've said BUT I do wonder... if it's inaccurate why is no one suing the papers? If it's inaccurate, why isn't the police union coming out and say it isn't so? And finally if it's inaccurate why is the Police saying "however, if further information came to light,".

Why wait for further information? Why not start digging for information?
It’s quite a rabbit hole to go down, media likes to fish sometimes restraint needs to be used in replying to the media until internal validation has occurred.
 

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Any law enforcement agent that is a uneffective hand combat player, marksman and Master negotiator is as useful as man tits. Or at least this is what I learn from shihan and former SAS Sargent Paul Cale.
If you cannot take grappling lessons, you should not be in the police. If as a woman don't learn to command respect and stand your ground to a 1.90 full grown male,and be quick enough to send him to the afterlife,if it needs to be, better consider other career choices.
Once saw two police officers having the hardest of times restraining a 150pound junkie in Handley Street, impresentable inept and soft, out of shape.
 
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Any law enforcement agent that is a uneffective hand combat player, marksman and Master negotiator is as useful as man tits. Or at least this is what I learn from shihan and former SAS Sargent Paul Cale.
If you cannot take grappling lessons, you should not be in the police. If as a woman don't learn to command respect and stand your ground to a 1.90 full grown male,and be quick enough to send him to the afterlife,if it needs to be, better consider other career choices.
Once saw two police officers having the hardest of times restraining a 150pound junkie in Handley Street, impresentable inept and soft, out of shape.

Hmmm, was Paul Cale ever in the SAS? I know he was a Commando but I don't think I've ever seen a pic of him wearing the khaki beret. I stand to be corrected.
 

Bigdy

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Hmmm, was Paul Cale ever in the SAS? I know he was a Commando but I don't think I've ever seen a pic of him wearing the khaki beret. I stand to be corrected.
Hi you are absolutely rigth and I am correcting. He was with the army commandos and not the SAS
 
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Bigdy

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Any law enforcement agent that is a uneffective hand combat player, marksman and Master negotiator is as useful as man tits. Or at least this is what I learn from shihan and former Australian army commando Sargent Paul Cale.
If you cannot take grappling lessons, you should not be in the police. If as a woman don't learn to command respect and stand your ground to a 1.90 full grown male,and be quick enough to send him to the afterlife,if it needs to be, better consider other career choices.
Once saw two police officers having the hardest of times restraining a 150pound junkie in Handley Street, impresentable inept and soft, out of shape.
 
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subucni

lol seven west media who live on their knees for the porkies writing nasty things about cols clown club lol
 
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I love it when the news reports are on at 5 in the evening and they have a pre-recorded tape or a live "cross" to the police HQ as if the reporter's fresh from a press briefing. What a load of BS!
 
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Not everything in the media is accurate or if accurate then embellished greater than what it really is.

There is hazing in most workplaces that has been around for time immemorial, some quite severe, but in large most professions have good people doing difficult jobs.

I’ve seen the human side of policing and know they are ordinary people doing an extraordinary job, witnessing some pretty extreme circumstances that the general public are oblivious to.

I was in service, not police service, so understand some of the dynamics of what goes on, I also know that if the media doesn’t get the story they want they’ll embellish the story they want the public to absorb. I’ve witnessed media manipulation firsthand to the point I can’t watch the news as it irritates me.

Many people have told me I should write a book but it’s too hard given that some details just can’t be said without breaching confidentiality of citizens, especially in small communities.

Take some stories, dial them back a bit then realise not everything the media feeds people is accurate.
There's a solid 6 paragraphs of excuses .. AMAZING headinsand stuff
 
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Also Rember Julian Assange has been charged with treason for wiki leaks there are some things you just not talk about.
Although the media giants come out with fake news on a daily basis.
Yep, all Julian did was tell us what the govt had already done ..
Not a lot different to the public shame pounding so many anti-covid messengers have been dished up in this latest scam.
Check out the laws currently being passed right here in WA Govt whereby private citizens can be locked away and their property confiscated if the Govt deems them as a threat to the public. This is to replace their " state of emergency" control. Autocratic police state IS here.
 
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subucni

mmm like that hi profile defective detective hero who recently couldnt remember the pin number to his phone but his evidence has convicted people
 
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