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Charity begins at home...

billybones

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Seems you can`t walk into your local shopping centre these days without being asked at least once if you would like to sponser a charity.
There`s the Salvation Army, World Vision, Cancer council, RSPCA, Rocky Bay Village just to name a few.

So what charity do you like to help and why??
 

Master Yoda

“Your path you must decide.”
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Any charity that is PRO for something that serves the greater good. And I avoid efforts that are ANTI anything.

Collectively there is a growing awareness on this planet that thoughts and attention are very powerful creative forces. These forces do not discriminate. Whether we focus on what we desire or wedge on thoughts of what we do not want. The energy of these thoughts will set in motion the creation of what we focus on.

Do charities that are:
- Pro education
- Pro awareness
- Pro health

See how these are not based on something being wrong
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Ones I avoid are the likes of:

- War against poverty
- War against drugs
- War against crime

These draw a lot of attention, thoughts, and emotions to the very things they seem to be TRYING to avoid. Think about the effect of the grose pictures on cigarette packets.

Mother Teresa once expressed that she is not interested in protests that are wars against anything. But will love to be invited to a pro peace rally.

And by the way this is not my work, it is something I have learned and passionately work on.

Anyone else have thoughts on this in the context of the topic on charities started by Billybones? Would love to hear your views.
 
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Alecia the Foxx

I donate to the RSPCA, and Greenpeace, and I donate old clothes, etc to the child cancer foundation; they sell them on to either op shops or to make rags.
 

svengali

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I donate to a few causes, particularly I cannot walk past a Salvo rattling a tin without dropping something into it.

However, we should all be aware of how much of our donated money actually gets to those in need. There are many charities out there which use paid collectors and pay professional staff so that as little as 20c in each dollar actually gets to the "sharp end".

Church based charities, partcularly the Salvos and official ones like the bushfire/flood appeals and Lord Mayor's Christmas fund usually offer the best bang for your buck.
 
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Farm Boy

And ih the so called* WAR AGAINST POVERTY was renamed something like

1 John 3:17 But if someone who is supposed to be a Christian has money enough to live well, and sees a brother in need, and won't help him--how can God's love be within him ? 1 John 3:18 Little children, let us stop just saying we love people; let us really love them, and show it by our actions. 1 John 3:19 Then we will know for sure, by our actions, that we are on God's side, and our consciences will be clear, even when we stand before the Lord.


* sorry about the ABC ism
 
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Alecia the Foxx

I have a problem with the Salvation Army, I'm afraid. However, there are other church groups which undertake the same sort of charity work. I support them.
 

billybones

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I have a problem with the Salvation Army, I'm afraid. However, there are other church groups which undertake the same sort of charity work. I support them.

Do you mind if I ask what the problem with the Salvation Army is??

I also feel that Svengali is right when he says not all the money goes to the charity.
Perhaps they should have to display somewhere how much of your donation actually goes to the cause and not lost via a middle man or similar.
If it were possible I think I`ld rather donate my time then give money and not wonder how much they actually get.
 
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Alecia the Foxx

The Salvation Army in one of the cities over here had intellectually challenged people cutting rags for them without any protective masks or gloves. That is unacceptable. One of the guys I know who was working there developed a bronchial disorder due to this. This was a church-going guy, who didn't drink or smoke and who does four square dancing; he didn't pick up the disorder any other way. They were also paying them a pittance while doing this.

They also had a homeless guy running the Homeless Shelter. He got to stay there free for running it, and remained on the dole. The Salvation Army dude who this "manager" answered to ran a carpet cleaning business and gave this guy $10 per carpet,i.e, $10 per house. How rude. They should have been prepared to pay a proper manager a decent wage to ensure the well-being of the occupants.

A good friend of mine was "working" in the 70's and 80's and also had a job at the Salvation Army. She was going to work at the Sallie's one day, and was told that the "big boss" from Head Office was making an appearance. He did so shortly thereafter; and she promptly lost her job because he recognised her as being one of the escorts he had hired in a brothel fairly recently.

So, in support of my friends who have not been treated well by this organisation, I don't support them financially.

However, as I stated, there are others whom I do support.
 
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WRXXXR

RSPCA and a few other local animal based ones who rescue and re home animals etc. The Perth based ones don't even come close to making money but do a huge amount for animals.

Not local but I'm involved in some micro-financing in some 3rd world countries. Rather than simply donate, peoplr pitch an idea to a group or individual and then borrow money to start a crop to sell or whatever it may be. Usually farming or retail based (heart of any economy) but the catch is they have pay it back over time. Rather than just give them money it teaches and gives people (particularly women) the oppertunity to grow economically. Sometimes they "default" but not usually.

The money you put in, ends up back in an account that you can pull out at any time (whatever you've been given back) but i just put it into other loans. No different to us borrowing money from the bank accept it's usually small amounts and they don't pay interest.
 
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Alecia the Foxx

I will always donate to the R. S. P. C. A. XXXXX

Me also. There is also an organisation over here called "Paw Justice" which is involved with amending laws regarding animal cruelty and the like. There may be something similar in Aussie.
 
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Saige

Any charity that is PRO for something that serves the greater good. And I avoid efforts that are ANTI anything.

Collectively there is a growing awareness on this planet that thoughts and attention are very powerful creative forces. These forces do not discriminate. Whether we focus on what we desire or wedge on thoughts of what we do not want. The energy of these thoughts will set in motion the creation of what we focus on.

Do charities that are:
- Pro education
- Pro awareness
- Pro health

See how these are not based on something being wrong
:)

Ones I avoid are the likes of:

- War against poverty
- War against drugs
- War against crime

These draw a lot of attention, thoughts, and emotions to the very things they seem to be TRYING to avoid. Think about the effect of the grose pictures on cigarette packets.

Mother Teresa once expressed that she is not interested in protests that are wars against anything. But will love to be invited to a pro peace rally.

And by the way this is not my work, it is something I have learned and passionately work on.

Anyone else have thoughts on this in the context of the topic on charities started by Billybones? Would love to hear your views.

I am with you my luv....the power of the word, I too heard Mother Teresa's saying many years ago (I do have to say she is one of, I think, the greatest women to have graced the earth), I agree strongly.

I give to doctors without borders and I am about to embark leaving in less then a few months on a trip to Bali where I am volunteering to teach Balinese kids English, Basic Computing and Organic Gardening skills (year 1-7) and assisting with pre-school aged kids, obviously in Bali if you cant afford to go to public school you do not go, so this one was set up in Ubud for the children to access education....I cant wait.:notworthy
 
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Perth boy

Wheels for Hope is the place that gets me. I donate a lot of money to this foundation. They put disabled familys into motor cars. They have around 80 cars on the road in Perth and have only been going for a few years. 100% of the donation goes towards buying cars for familys with disabled kids. The cars are owned buy the foundation and all running costs excluding fuel are donated by business within the automotive industry in Perth RAC included. As a donater I have been to a funtion to hand over a car to a much needed family. Look around the room and everyones has a tear in thire eye including me. The government said last year they will match $ for $ raised.
Link is broken so has been taken down
 
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TheCock

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I am with you my luv....the power of the word, I too heard Mother Teresa's saying many years ago (I do have to say she is one of, I think, the greatest women to have graced the earth), I agree strongly.

I give to doctors without borders and I am about to embark leaving in less then a few months on a trip to Bali where I am volunteering to teach Balinese kids English, Basic Computing and Organic Gardening skills (year 1-7) and assisting with pre-school aged kids, obviously in Bali if you cant afford to go to public school you do not go, so this one was set up in Ubud for the children to access education....I cant wait.:notworthy

Do you have to be a teacher with quals?

Edit: These sorts of things are never advertised anywhere so people never know about them. How did you find out Saige?
 
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Saige

Yes I am interested in this also Saige, that's awesome x

PM me or email me and Ill send you the info...I am so excited I cant wait xxx Been a life long dream to do this and have worked hard enough to take time off to do it now xx
 
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wingman

I have a view on this that some people disagree with. And that is that I will never ever donate money to any charity, ever, regardless of my financial situation at the time. I've had insight into some charities - how little of it gets to it's destination, and once at that destination how little of it gets spent wisely. Sure, there'll be some exceptions to this rule, but that ship has well and truly sailed for me.

HOWEVER, I love to help others in need out in non monetary ways. I've given some clothes to homeless, volunteered my time helping in a soup kitchen. Once my financial situation changes, a dream of mine is to arrange homes to be built for those less fortunate, or buy equipment for the kids cancer ward of the hospital directly (as opposed to donating money toward it).
 
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Saige

Each to there own...as long as we all do our bit!! I think your ideas are fab, especially the houses idea x I am one of those people who walks down the street and has to give to every homeless person with a sign and hat out..I just cant walk by without it and feel ok about myself and my lucky life...my friend argued one day that they were prob a druggie and I was helping them get there next fix, my only reply to this is...We have no idea about what has gone on in this persons life to bring them to this point (so much mental illness in the homeless community) and if it was going to dugs at least they are not robbing someone to get it and good god its got to take some swallowing of pride and ego to sit there like that and I am sure cop abuse and looks of disgust. Sometimes people get stuck in there lives and just need a kind smile and a hand...
 
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