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The Voice

Diamond Member
Points
150
The cruelest aspect of Trumism is that he offered false hope to the battlers when in reality he is elist as the best of them. He didn't even 'drain the swamp', failing to keep all those promises that would have made a difference, such as kerbing the so called elitists and banning ex politicians and holders of high office becoming lobyists.as for all those tariffs and economic sanctions, they didn't bring back jobs they just made goods and services more expensive for the battlers.
 

ozwarlock67

Legend Member
Points
81
The cruelest aspect of Trumism is that he offered false hope to the battlers when in reality he is elist as the best of them. He didn't even 'drain the swamp', failing to keep all those promises that would have made a difference, such as kerbing the so called elitists and banning ex politicians and holders of high office becoming lobyists.as for all those tariffs and economic sanctions, they didn't bring back jobs they just made goods and services more expensive for the battlers.


Sadly there are still plenty of people online who believe him to be some kind of demigod who has done no wrong.
 

The Voice

Diamond Member
Points
150
Yeah, one guy on youtube insisted that a forensic review of the election results is warranted because 39% of the US population believe the election was rigged. I replied asking is this the same 39% that believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old?
 

sabredog

Steppin' Out
Legend Member
Points
46
As much as I was not a fan of Trump. I was far, far more fearful of Biden (Democrats) winning. Stay tuned folks the slide to the far left has just started.
 

The Voice

Diamond Member
Points
150
If i had to choose, i'd rather a shift to the left (which means moving closer to the centre) than the direction Trump took and further heading if he had won.
 

sabredog

Steppin' Out
Legend Member
Points
46
If i had to choose, i'd rather a shift to the left (which means moving closer to the centre) than the direction Trump took and further heading if he had won.
No thanks. You might really rue those remakes in twelve months. I give Biden twelve months maximum before he is retires and Kamala Harris takes POTUS.

Not at all. Shift to the left for the Democats means FAR left, not centre. EVER.

Biden has been in an elected US senator for 47 years and has done nothing. (Except probably take bribes from vested interests and China via his son Hunter.)

I did not like Trump at all and less after his stupid antics of late but in the end, the Democrat alternative is going to be far, far worse.

Biden's Unity ticket is hot air and lies. He cannot even control that vindictive witch Nancy Pelosi.
 

The Voice

Diamond Member
Points
150
The US economy seems to do better when the Democrats hold offices, eg Kennedy and Johnson in the 60s, Clinton in the 90s and Obama after the disasterous Bush GFC, which Trump rode on the coat tails of recovery. I suppose Reagan did ok but, ironically, he was the biggest spender of them all (with the exception of stimulus spending due to the GFC and Coronavirus).

There's no point going on as we both have diametrically opposite views. Personally i don`t consider the Democractic Party as a whole to be a left wing party. It is more centrist/centre right. It's more that the US politics has shifted further to the right since the 1980s.
 

ozwarlock67

Legend Member
Points
81
Trump has been referred to as the worst president in US history. Whoever replaced him would have to be a breath of fresh air.

I have said to a few one-eyed Trump supporters "Why don't you just give Mr Biden a chance?"
 

sabredog

Steppin' Out
Legend Member
Points
46
The US economy seems to do better when the Democrats hold offices, eg Kennedy and Johnson in the 60s, Clinton in the 90s and Obama after the disasterous Bush GFC, which Trump rode on the coat tails of recovery. I suppose Reagan did ok but, ironically, he was the biggest spender of them all (with the exception of stimulus spending due to the GFC and Coronavirus).

There's no point going on as we both have diametrically opposite views. Personally i don`t consider the Democractic Party as a whole to be a left wing party. It is more centrist/centre right. It's more that the US politics has shifted further to the right since the 1980s.
I agree. Respect is understanding there are different views and respecting each side for having them. A trait sadly lacking by many of either side.
 
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